610, 810 or 412 for standard tuning rock/metal?

[hyp.spec]

So I've been rocking my Avatar B212 for a while it sounds fantastic, it just doesn't have enough volume for my new band. So I've been thinking about upgrading to a 610, 810 or a 412.

We play in standard tuning for most things, but drop tunings may happen in the future.

I'm definitely wanting a midrangey sound (steve harris perse), I instantly think 810, but what are the opinions on a 610 or a 412?

I can't add to my current setup because my Avatar is already 4 ohms and I'm running a MarkBass LMIII into it.

Thanks for suggestions

[waleross]

For me its either Ampeg 810E's or 410HLF's, I wouldn't get a 610HLF or another brand , I had one and got rid of it . It didn't put out enough. For moving around I have (2) HLF cabs but the 810E does rule IMO.......

[Son of Bovril]

check out as many different brands and cabs as you can, your cab has a huge influence on your tone. the ampeg 810 is a classic for rock, the MB cabs are nice and light and cut through a mix well

[RNV]

Take your bass and head to your local music store and start trying out everything they have, mix match two 8 ohm cabs, 4 ohms, whatever. Taste everything!!!

[Classickbass]

+1 to RNV's comment, try everything.

Most of us have gone through what you're experiencing. I ended up with the Ampeg 810E at the end of my search. I would recommend it to anyone. Let us know what you end up with, we gear heads love to hear about it.

[Lazarus.Bird]

I own an Ampeg SVT-610HLF. It was decent but running it at max volume I still had issues now and then keeping up with my guitarists and their full stacks. My BassBomb 212 I think is actually louder with more head room. Wish I had gone with an 810 or 410 instead of the 6.

[Neek]

RNV has the right idea... People can tell you "X is better than Y" but only you can decide which sounds best for you. I tested every cab i could when i first got into live music, ended up sticking with the Ampeg 410HLF for my metal group based on the sound and portability. i loved the "monster cab, monster sound" look and feel of the 810... i just dont have the means to get an 810 around town! The 410HLF fits perfectly in my transporting situation, without compromising the sound i love.

[hyp.spec]

Well I guess i'm head up to Guitar Crap and a couple other music stores and see what me can find. Sometimes its just hard testing out stuff at stores because I really wanna crank the stuff but I dont wanna be like them guitards wailing all day...

[rockstarbassist]

I prefer 12's for rock, FWIW.

[KramerBassFan]

4x12 all day. Go Mesa.

[RNV]

I like the sealed 810 for rock, but I think ported anything is best for metal.

[mcapote]

Originally Posted by hyp.spec

So I've been rocking my Avatar B212 for a while it sounds fantastic, it just doesn't have enough volume for my new band. So I've been thinking about upgrading to a 610, 810 or a 412.

We play in standard tuning for most things, but drop tunings may happen in the future.

I'm definitely wanting a midrangey sound (steve harris perse), I instantly think 810, but what are the opinions on a 610 or a 412?

I can't add to my current setup because my Avatar is already 4 ohms and I'm running a MarkBass LMIII into it.

Thanks for suggestions

well 8 10 will be louder than a 6 10 because of cone area, sound wise I expect pretty much the same with changes for speaker and box design of course. 12 I think may give you a little more low end but I dont think a 4 12 will be as loud as an 8 10. I play hardrock and metal and I currently use a fearful 12 DIed into the PA. but am planning on a 2 12 combo in to the pa soon

[metron]

I can't recommend the Bergantino NV cabs enough for anything rock related. I have the 610. There is a 412 as well which I never played but I'm sure it's great too. Not too big or heavy. Compared to an 810 fridge they are small and light. Loud enough for anything IMO. I don't really get the 10s vs 12s thing, seems like splitting hairs to me. When I need a little bit more low end I bump the bass on the amp. There can be so much bass coming from my SVT / NV 610 rig that it almost hurts. Whatever though. So... yeah Bergantino NV cabs.

[Joe Nerve]

I had a 2X12. Didn't cut it. Added another 2X12. Still didn't cut it. Bought an Berg NV610. Cuts it wonderfully and is a lot easier to fit in my car and cart around. I've played through many Ampeg 8X10s, I rehearse through one reguarly now and the Berg is way louder, punchier, and lighter. I have no love whatsoever for Ampeg refridgerator cabs. Not sure what motivates anyone to lug one around except maybe for the name and vintage vibe.

[bassmasta117]

have you thought about adding an avatar 2x10 or another 2x12, or a 4x10 on top of your current cab?

[SC Bassboy]

SWR Megoliath 8x10. I can't recommend this cabinet enough. I've dragged mine all over the country and played hundreds of shows with it. It's a beast.

[NewLaw83]

I currently have a 610 SWR Goliath Senior. I play in a hardcore/metal band and that's cuts through for me just fine. Of course the guitarist is only playing out of a Marshall halfstack. And when it comes to transporting the cab, its not bad at all.

[KsPiNeSh]

Upgrading to a 410 will get you ~ 40% more cone area than your 212 currently has, so going bigger than that may be overkill. We play hard rock/metal, 7-string guitar, tune A-E-A-D-G, and my Uber 410 has never left me wanting. The thing loves power and sounds better the more you push it. On-stage, I have to turn down from my basement volume, which isn't loud... you should check one out.

[Gav4003]

810 for anything and everything. Just can not go wrong.

[PDK]

I like the GB XB2 6x10. IMO it has more lows than an Ampeg 8x10 because its ported. I have one and my cousin plays in a metal band with one.