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Old 05-19-2010, 04:44 PM
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8 ohm cab into a 4 ohm head?

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I dont know much about ohms and all that stuff... but i decided to build a mini stack
the bass head- Power: 200 Watts @ 4 Ohms
the cab- Power: 200 Watts @ 8 Ohms


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Acoustic 200 H Head
Hartke 210XL Cab

is this safe to do?
Will there be any effects in terms of sound?

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Old 05-19-2010, 04:50 PM
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Your best bet is to match ohms. It's a good way to avoid fires, lol.

As far as the 200W head into the 200W cab, turning the volume up will have a good chance of blowing out that speaker. Go for something that has more W handling than the head puts out to be safe. 500W capable speakers are not hard to come by.

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The 4 ohm rating of your head is a minimum rating - meaning DO NOT GO BELOW 4 OHMS.

An 8 ohm cab is fine with that head, and leaves you room to add another 8 ohm cab.

Your head will probably be putting out around 100-125 watts at 8 ohms.
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i have a 200 watt 4ohm cab also and it puts out 120 watts with a single 8 ohm cab so your safe. you will then have the opyion of adding another 8ohm cab later.....just make sure both cabs can do at least 200.
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please, please, pretty please go read the OHMS FAQ in the amps FAQ sticky
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Your best bet is to match ohms. It's a good way to avoid fires, lol.
Where'd that come from? Running an 8-ohm cab off a head rated at 4 ohms will have absolutely no negative impact, except that the head will not be producing its full power. Unless, of course you drive the cab into distortion, which you can do even with a head and cab rated at the same power.
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Where'd that come from? Running an 8-ohm cab off a head rated at 4 ohms will have absolutely no negative impact, except that the head will not be producing its full power. Unless, of course you drive the cab into distortion, which you can do even with a head and cab rated at the same power.


how much does it produce if not full power?
half?
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please, please, pretty please go read the OHMS FAQ in the amps FAQ sticky
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please, please, pretty please go read the OHMS FAQ in the amps FAQ sticky
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Two 8 ohm cabs connected = a 4 ohm load.
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I should hope the cab isn't going into the amp. It won't make all that much of a sound otherwise. =P
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The amount that the power is reduced into 8 Ohms depends on the design of the amp. It is USUALLY 25-50% less. Don't worry about it - the difference is nearly inaudible. Due to rules of physics and the way the ear works, twice the power is much less than twice as loud.
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The amplifier can drive a speaker (a load), and the lowest impedance it can drive is usually specified as a minimum near its output terminals. This is your 4 ohms.

You are fine using an 8 ohm load with your amplifier's 4 ohm minimum.
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I should hope the cab isn't going into the amp. It won't make all that much of a sound otherwise. =P

oh man! lol! i just realized that!
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I don't mean to highjack the thread but 8+8+4=2 right? thats ohms obviously.
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I don't mean to highjack the thread but 8+8+4=2 right? thats ohms obviously.
You might want to read the TB Ohms FAQ: Ohms FAQ

Total impedance = 1/(1/a + 1/b + 1/c ... + 1/n)

1/(1/8+1/8+1/4) = 2 ohms.

Right answer.
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Where'd that come from? Running an 8-ohm cab off a head rated at 4 ohms will have absolutely no negative impact, except that the head will not be producing its full power. Unless, of course you drive the cab into distortion, which you can do even with a head and cab rated at the same power.
True. I just try to keep things simple to avoid any problems. You are way more experienced than I am with these issues, so I will obviously defer to you... and hold onto that bit of knowledge in case I ever have the same problem as the OP. Thanks.
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Don't we have a sticky on this?
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