8x10-2x4x10? mesa, ampeg, markbass?

[edgaroviz]

I'm thinking of getting a 8x10, or a 2x4x10 from mesa boogie, ampeg, or markbass.

8x10 is awesome, I played one a few days ago at my local ampeg importer, and when I felt the rumble of this amazing cab, with a tube amp, it was amazing how easy it is to shut up all the guitar players around to tried out amps... To say the truth..? I had to change my underware afterwards.
But... And it's a big but... It's a really heavy cab.

Getting a 2x4x10 would be better in case I don't want to carry a heavy beast like a 8x10, and more compact in case I do need a 8x10.

Though I don't know what's the difference amp wise, and how it'll respond.


I tried the Ampeg, and it's amazing, but I don't have a Mesa Boogie dealer close by, and I heard that the Markbass amps aren't that good on the low end should.

What do you guys thing about Markbass, Ampeg and Mesa Boogie?

Thanks, Edgar.

[JimmyM]

All quality companies, all have cabs with different voicings that are 810's or can be made into 810's. But as far as I'm concerned, the Ampeg 810 is THE 810 and there's nothing quite like it, even though it's big. But in many ways, it's easier to get an 810 around than two 410's. Less deadlifting, more leverage. Only thing that's really harder is going upstairs. But you do have to have a car that'll fit it, so two 410he's are a good substitute that's voiced very much like the 810e except the 410he has a tweeter.

[edgaroviz]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

All quality companies, all have cabs with different voicings that are 810's or can be made into 810's. But as far as I'm concerned, the Ampeg 810 is THE 810 and there's nothing quite like it, even though it's big. But in many ways, it's easier to get an 810 around than two 410's. Less deadlifting, more leverage. Only thing that's really harder is going upstairs. But you do have to have a car that'll fit it, so two 410he's are a good substitute that's voiced very much like the 810e except the 410he has a tweeter.

I had a 2 seater, I can't get my bassman tv 15 in there, it'll be like trying to fit an 8x10 cab into a matchbox. I'll always have to get someone to help with the cab, any cab.

Oh... I live on the 4th floor... no elevator... REALLY tight hallway.
Don't think that hauling down/up stairs a 65kg cab is easy. Though going up and down, twice, for two 4x10 is much better.

Btw, the Fender Bassman tv 15" has a 350watt tube amp, granted it's just a single tube, but on the back it has a line out. Can I plug a 8x10 in there? Till I get another one.
I heard lots of stuff about the amp... Some say it's possible, some say it's not.

[steelhead2]

only reason i'm going comment is;,if you live in an apartment it seems to me an 8x10 is way to much,,there's just so many opinions and it's based on what that person does,i look at bass players with'sound reinforcement' like 'entrance band' and she's using like a 1x15 or 1x18 cab and a head,laying down a killer tone while doing it

i want 2x4x10's because i have a stereo head i like,a lot,and i want the flexibilty,,,if i had my way i'd have Lemmy's pile of cabs heads and a gang to haul it for me(not that Lemmy is my ultimate bass god but he does show quite a large load of gear at live shows,have to respect that)

and,i know of a gigging bass player or two that utilises a couple single speaker cabs or 4x10's as nec. for the venue and a head,of course they have a PA micing them,,,blahblah,,8x10's are great if that's what you want go for it,,i can drive 2 of them@ 4 ohms but i can't load/haul 2 of them by myself,and where do i play them at,,have fun

[Caca de Kick]

Well from my experience with the Boogie 810. It's nothing like the Ampeg. Problem is, only a few dealers actually stock it, the majority (like 98%) don't.
The only issue is weight. I'm screwed if I'm by myself in my 4x4 truck, cab is 173lbs I can't lift it myself and the truck is too tall. If I drive my smaller 2wd truck or Durango I can easily tilt it in, but overall it can be a bear to move.

[edgaroviz]

Originally Posted by Caca de Kick

Well from my experience with the Boogie 810. It's nothing like the Ampeg. Problem is, only a few dealers actually stock it, the majority (like 98%) don't.
The only issue is weight. I'm screwed if I'm by myself in my 4x4 truck, cab is 173lbs I can't lift it myself and the truck is too tall. If I drive my smaller 2wd truck or Durango I can easily tilt it in, but overall it can be a bear to move.

The Mesa is one heavy cab, it's easier hauling 2 8x10 Markbass's.
I have my eye one the Ampeg, it looks like it's the best of two worlds.

Sorry if that sounds funny, I don't know if I should call myself a new player, but I'm playing for 3 years now, and I never cared about amps, or cabs. Just played my old Squire, and Marshall 30W amp, till i got my Bassman tv 15 a year ago.
Why do people want to buy 2 cabs to run them in stereo, or mono, what's the difference?

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by edgaroviz

Btw, the Fender Bassman tv 15" has a 350watt tube amp, granted it's just a single tube, but on the back it has a line out. Can I plug a 8x10 in there? Till I get another one.
I heard lots of stuff about the amp... Some say it's possible, some say it's not.

You can line out to another amp and cab, but you can't hook up a second cab to it unless it has its own amp. That is one of the best combos I've ever heard, but doggone it, they made it completely unexpandable for extension cabs.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by edgaroviz

\Sorry if that sounds funny, I don't know if I should call myself a new player, but I'm playing for 3 years now, and I never cared about amps, or cabs. Just played my old Squire, and Marshall 30W amp, till i got my Bassman tv 15 a year ago.
Why do people want to buy 2 cabs to run them in stereo, or mono, what's the difference?

Mostly people want to run them in mono and boost the wattage from their heads and make a lot more air movement and a sweeter tone with an extension cab. But again, the Bassman TV, while great, is impossible to add an extension cab.

[edgaroviz]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

Mostly people want to run them in mono and boost the wattage from their heads and make a lot more air movement and a sweeter tone with an extension cab. But again, the Bassman TV, while great, is impossible to add an extension cab.

Is it possible to line the Bassman tv out to the 8x10, so it will power only the 8x10? At least till I buy some amp head.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by edgaroviz

Is it possible to line the Bassman tv out to the 8x10, so it will power only the 8x10? At least till I buy some amp head.

You could go into it and disconnect the internal speaker and jury rig a speaker cord going from those wires to your 810. But the line out isn't meant to be used as a speaker out and won't work as one. That's for going to another amp and cab or going to a PA or recording device.

[Randall]

4 flights up/down stairs no elevator and you want a 8x10? you are very dedicated to your craft sir
There are some nice 2x10 neo cabs out there that would be easy to load up/down stairs and into your small car. Who wants to ask for help everytime you load/transport your gear to a gig. That would get old real fast.

[Caca de Kick]

Originally Posted by edgaroviz

Is it possible to line the Bassman tv out to the 8x10, so it will power only the 8x10? At least till I buy some amp head.

I've done it before years ago with some of my old combos, by installing a switching jack that bypasses the combo speaker when you plug the cable in, and powers the big cab instead.

[cheezewiz]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

All quality companies, all have cabs with different voicings that are 810's or can be made into 810's. But as far as I'm concerned, the Ampeg 810 is THE 810 and there's nothing quite like it, even though it's big. But in many ways, it's easier to get an 810 around than two 410's. Less deadlifting, more leverage. Only thing that's really harder is going upstairs. But you do have to have a car that'll fit it, so two 410he's are a good substitute that's voiced very much like the 810e except the 410he has a tweeter.

This, but living on a 4th floor apartment makes it completely impractical.

[edgaroviz]

Originally Posted by Randall

4 flights up/down stairs no elevator and you want a 8x10? you are very dedicated to your craft sir
There are some nice 2x10 neo cabs out there that would be easy to load up/down stairs and into your small car. Who wants to ask for help everytime you load/transport your gear to a gig. That would get old real fast.

The Markbass 8x10 sound like a great idea, because it's like lighter than a 4x10 ampeg.
But I don't have a place where I can play it, and I heard some people says that it lacks low-end power.

[klejst]

I used to do the 2-4x10's setup for awhile and it was nice to have the choice to use one for smaller gigs and both for larger, however it really became a lot of travel with and load in and out after every gig so I sold the two 4x10s and invested in a 6x10 and a Mesa PowerHouse 6x10 at that. Love this cab, solid built, and sounds simply awesome. They say the Mesa 6x10 is like the 8x10 without the extra weight.

[Alex1984]

I love my Ampeg 810, there's nothing quite like it. But I also love my pair of ported EV B410, they give me something completely different from the 810.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by edgaroviz

The Markbass 8x10 sound like a great idea, because it's like lighter than a 4x10 ampeg.
But I don't have a place where I can play it, and I heard some people says that it lacks low-end power.

I would agree. It's got a strong upper mid and feels a little thin on the bottom. But it's a way small sealed cab and that's what they do. You can dial it more if you need it, but I do greatly prefer the 810e low end.