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01-09-2013, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sartori Well, it's just closer to the sound I use for my metal stuff.
I generally boost the annoying mids for my metal bands. | I'm going to try that in a few min, about to have a full band practice
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02-06-2013, 08:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: south florida | | ok now I need TB's help. amp has been perfect until now. When I push the preamp it makes a really bad breaking up sound I cant tell of its the speaker or the pre amp tube. When I turn the pre down and push the master, the problem disappears and everything is fine. I have this video showing everything. please help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhzdFTjFGVw
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02-06-2013, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by zachreh ok now I need TB's help. amp has been perfect until now. When I push the preamp it makes a really bad breaking up sound I cant tell of its the speaker or the pre amp tube. When I turn the pre down and push the master, the problem disappears and everything is fine. I have this video showing everything. please help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhzdFTjFGVw | Sounds to me like your cab is farting a bit. If you push the pre, and turn the master way down does it still make the same sound?
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02-06-2013, 09:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: south florida | | | yes, the farting out sound is when I push the pre and keep the master down, Now when i keep the pre down and push the master to the same volume or even higher, their is no farting out and everything sounds perfect, like the way it should.
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02-06-2013, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by zachreh yes, the farting out sound is when I push the pre and keep the master down, Now when i keep the pre down and push the master to the same volume or even higher, their is no farting out and everything sounds perfect, like the way it should. | But what if you bring the master way way down. Does it still do it? Or does the farting get worse as your volume goes up a bit?
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02-06-2013, 02:27 PM
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Then, if still there- I'd try a known good pre tube in each pre amp tube slot.
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02-06-2013, 03:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: fresno, ca | | | Ugh...That's why I'm down on tube amps....I play a similar genre of music and get all the the tube tone I need via a TC electronic Blacksmith. Pricier than yours, but you can dial in great tones, it's reliable, and its a beast.... There' s a reason there are very few tube heads left on the market. You can get a very nice tube sound, with the added reliability of solid state.
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02-06-2013, 04:03 PM
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Now when i keep the pre down and push the master to the same volume or even higher, their is no farting out and everything sounds perfect, like the way it should.
| I notice you are using an active bass. Are you using the pad switch on the amp?
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02-06-2013, 05:25 PM
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Seems that Anthony wasn't playing a stock VB3, instead he has a custom one, and now there's a new model based on it. It's red.
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02-07-2013, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BbbyBld I notice you are using an active bass. Are you using the pad switch on the amp? | No I haven't tried out the pad switch but I will today. Im starting to think it is the pre amp because even when i keep the master very low and boost the pre amp past 4 you can hear the farting sound like the vid shows. Another point is when I turn off the compressor the farting sound gets much worse. Again if i keep my pre amp low and just boost the master the amp sounds perfect and works like it should. Im thinking about bringing it into a shop
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02-07-2013, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by zachreh No I haven't tried out the pad switch but I will today. Im starting to think it is the pre amp because even when i keep the master very low and boost the pre amp past 4 you can hear the farting sound like the vid shows. Another point is when I turn off the compressor the farting sound gets much worse. Again if i keep my pre amp low and just boost the master the amp sounds perfect and works like it should. Im thinking about bringing it into a shop | I think you are just overloading the Pre in a bad way. You are using an active bass and a SA BDDI correct? Take the pedal out of the signal chain. Set all your Bass's eq to flat, bass volume on full. Set your master about 1-2 and slowly bring up the pre as you pluck (not pick).
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02-07-2013, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mwig Ugh...That's why I'm down on tube amps....I play a similar genre of music and get all the the tube tone I need via a TC electronic Blacksmith. Pricier than yours, but you can dial in great tones, it's reliable, and its a beast.... There' s a reason there are very few tube heads left on the market. You can get a very nice tube sound, with the added reliability of solid state. | I disagree that tube amps are less reliable than solid state. I've had solid state amps die during gigs and have received non tube gear that is defective in some way right out of the box. All amps, tube or solid state, can have defects, even right from the factory.
I gigged my SVT, early eighties model, 2 to 3 nights a week, for two years. Never gave me a bit of trouble, and that doesn't include our very loud rehearsals even! 
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02-07-2013, 07:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: chincoteague island, va | | | I agree ur overloading the pre. With ur pedals and active bass make sure the minus db pad is on.
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02-07-2013, 08:25 AM
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Again if i keep my pre amp low and just boost the master the amp sounds perfect and works like it should. Im thinking about bringing it into a shop
| Yep...that's why the pre gain control is there. I don't think there's anything wrong--I think you are slamming the preamp. Quote: |
Seems that Anthony wasn't playing a stock VB3, instead he has a custom one, and now there's a new model based on it. It's red.
| Wrong. MA was using stock VB-3's. This new amp is called the VB-MA. Start a new thread if you want to know more.
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02-07-2013, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BbbyBld Yep...that's why the pre gain control is there. I don't think there's anything wrong--I think you are slamming the preamp.
Wrong. MA was using stock VB-3's. This new amp is called the VB-MA. Start a new thread if you want to know more. | Ok well that's good news, when I was filming that I'd my sans amp wasn't on but I did have the bass boosted a bit on the eq and preamp almost maxed so that could be the problem. I hope I didn't do any real damage but ill back off on the preamp when I play. Thanks for the help everyone
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02-07-2013, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by zachreh Ok well that's good news, when I was filming that I'd my sans amp wasn't on but I did have the bass boosted a bit on the eq and preamp almost maxed so that could be the problem. I hope I didn't do any real damage but ill back off on the preamp when I play. Thanks for the help everyone |
I dont think you hurt anything, but I think you too much aggressive tonal options adding up to a unexpected sound. Seriously try setting your bass flat, plugging straight into the amp, and bringing the pre gain up while plucking.
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02-07-2013, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey I dont think you hurt anything, but I think you too much aggressive tonal options adding up to a unexpected sound. Seriously try setting your bass flat, plugging straight into the amp, and bringing the pre gain up while plucking. | Alright all fixed up, yeah I think i was using too much bass and maxing out the preamp was obviously going to cause some clipping, not have everything backed off a bit and sounds killer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtqpOQk7ab4
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02-08-2013, 03:33 PM
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Seems that Anthony wasn't playing a stock VB3, instead he has a custom one, and now there's a new model based on it. It's red.[/QUOTE
I wonder if Michael Anthony changed any of the eq points ? Looking foward to hearing his amp . | 
04-22-2013, 08:56 AM
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