AccuGroove & TecAmp

melodiaopus · #1 07-23-2012, 01:33 PM

I'm looking to upgrade my rig with a lighter rig. I currently have a TecAmp Puma 1000 running through a Bergantino HT322 cab. I'm looking for either a pair of 112's or a light 2x12 cab. I know that TecAmp cabs are suppose to be the bees knees, but I would like to know about how they compare to say the Bill Dicken's 2x12 or the 112L cabs. I'm just looking for something light weight with a lot of power. I like the clean and punchy sound of the Puma, but I'm just really not feeling the HT322 anymore. I need something, any other recommendations would be awesome.

-Adam

BurningSkies · #2 07-23-2012, 01:37 PM

Unless you have a line on used Accugrooves, you're going to have a tough time getting one...

melodiaopus · #3 07-23-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BurningSkies

Unless you have a line on used Accugrooves, you're going to have a tough time getting one...

Bass Central has a few. They have a Bill Dickens 2x12 and some Tri 112L. Not sure what they are selling them for, yet. Why would it be hard, are they no longer making cabinents anymore?

-Adam

BurningSkies · #4 07-23-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by melodiaopus

Bass Central has a few. They have a Bill Dickens 2x12 and some Tri 112L. Not sure what they are selling them for, yet. Why would it be hard, are they no longer making cabinents anymore?

-Adam

Nope. Mark has stopped building.

nostatic · #5 07-23-2012, 02:16 PM

melodiaopus · #6 07-23-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic

Are those a pair of 112?

nostatic · #7 07-23-2012, 02:59 PM

Yup - XS112. I love the cabinet. 22lbs, very punchy. I've played gigs with just one cab (and the Puma 500 head). The stack is stupid-loud. The only "downsides" are three position switch for the tweeter (as opposed to the 6 position on the bigger cabs) and the top handle which can be a clearance issue for some heads. I'm fine with the 3-position switch as I'm able to get a tone I like (either low or high depending on the room) and the handle isn't a big deal to me. Carrying is fine as the cab isn't too deep (13.8"). It also has a cool tilt feature with a stow-away bar

melodiaopus · #8 07-23-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic

Yup - XS112. I love the cabinet. 22lbs, very punchy. I've played gigs with just one cab (and the Puma 500 head). The stack is stupid-loud. The only "downsides" are three position switch for the tweeter (as opposed to the 6 position on the bigger cabs) and the top handle which can be a clearance issue for some heads. I'm fine with the 3-position switch as I'm able to get a tone I like (either low or high depending on the room) and the handle isn't a big deal to me. Carrying is fine as the cab isn't too deep (13.8"). It also has a cool tilt feature with a stow-away bar

That's a pretty nice feature. If I was made of money I would consider buying the S-212 as my larger venue gigs and the Puma 500 with a XL-112 for smaller type gigs. Would say that the stacked XL-112 is louder than your S-212?

nostatic · #9 07-23-2012, 03:33 PM

I didn't have the pair to directly compare to the S212, but I have an M212 coming this week. In talking with Glenn, the single cab will have a bit more girth than the pair of small cabs (especially the M212). Makes sense as it is a few inches deeper. Truth be told I think the pair of XS112s will cover anything I need but I figured I'd try the single 212 as I haven't run that config before.

melodiaopus · #10 07-23-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic

I didn't have the pair to directly compare to the S212, but I have an M212 coming this week. In talking with Glenn, the single cab will have a bit more girth than the pair of small cabs (especially the M212). Makes sense as it is a few inches deeper. Truth be told I think the pair of XS112s will cover anything I need but I figured I'd try the single 212 as I haven't run that config before.

Do you know the difference between the M, L, S series of the TecAmp models for the 212?

39-Bassist · #11 07-23-2012, 03:38 PM

I was endorsed with Accugroove and they are AWSOME! BUT!!!! If you want a very clear and true reproduction of your bass and head then that IS the cab for you. Hope you have a great head and bass. Eitherwise pair up your head with the same make of cabs. (They're designed for it) Just a thought. Good Luck with your choice. (had a chance to go with Techamp endorsement too. Great stuff) Can't go wrong eitherway.

melodiaopus · #12 07-23-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 39-Bassist

I was endorsed with Accugroove and they are AWSOME! BUT!!!! If you want a very clear and true reproduction of you bass and head than that IS the cab for you. Hope you have a great head and bass. Eitherwise pair up your head with the same make of cabs. (They're designed for it) Just a thought. Good Luck with your choice. (had a chance to go with Techamp endorsement too. Great stuff) Can't go wrong eitherway.

Cool, thank for the input. I currently run a Puma 1000 with my Warwick Thumb Bolt-On (which I've had for over 10 years). I love the sound it belts out through my HT322, but I'm looking for something a little cleaner and not so much of a spine smasher. I thought the AccuGroove and TecAmp stuff would be worth checking out. My friend has been loaning me his HT322 for years now. I haven't bought a cabinent since my UL-310 S2, which was about 6 years ago.

melodiaopus · #13 07-23-2012, 05:26 PM

Once Glenn from Austin Bass Traders get in the TecAmp cabs I'm going to break down and get the M-212 cab. Since AccuGroove is damn near impossible to get. Especially the Tri112's and or the Bill Dicken's 212. Plus I think TecAmp is the perfect weight to haul around. Hopefully later I can pick up a 112 for smaller gigs. I would like to get the Puma 300 for smaller jazz gigs and solo loop gigs.

Looking at also the Baer ML-112 as well.

nostatic · #14 07-23-2012, 05:36 PM

Glenn should be able to drop-ship whatever you want (assuming the cab is in the US warehouse). Wrt heads, I've thought about the 300 as well. The 500 is plenty loud - not sure I'll ever use the extra headroom on the a 900. I'm not sure how much cheaper the 300 is though...maybe worth the money to just get the 500 to cover anything.

DonovanBankhead · #15 07-23-2012, 09:24 PM

Generally the 500 is only $100 more than the 300 - so at that price, I'd go for the extra power...

M series cabs are front ported - which makes them a bit wider. S series cabs are rear ported, which makes them taller - which is better for me since I play on small stages and I'm a big guy!

nostatic · #16 07-23-2012, 10:05 PM

Per the specs, the S212 and M212 are the same height and depth - the M is 4.5" wider. The 210 cabs are shorter than the 212s though, and actually a pair of XS212s is even taller by a few inches (though they are shallower cabs so you're losing overall cab volumet). It doesn't specify the porting but I would assume the bigger volume would result in a different tuning frequency as well as a bit more beef between the two.

If it is only $100 difference, I would agree that the 500 head is the way to go vs the 300.

melodiaopus · #17 07-24-2012, 08:09 AM

I think I went a bit over kill when I bought the Puma 1000, I probably would have been satisfied with the 900. I still really enjoy that large headroom, even though I won't ever use that much of it. I think it would be nice to have a smaller rig for myself, that way I'm not lugging around a 1000 watt head with a 212 cab to a small jazz venue. I think the Puma 500 with either a 112 or a 210 cab would suffice just about any small venue.

phillybass101 · #18 08-16-2012, 07:00 AM

I think I said this before. Glasstone LIL G, 31lbs 2x12 1200watts rms around $749.00. I'm getting one as soon as I can se how to raise the cash. Tell em Walt sent ya!!!

KJung · #19 08-16-2012, 07:55 AM

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Do you know the difference between the M, L, S series of the TecAmp models for the 212?

Small, Medium, Large... same drivers, just different box sizes and tuning. IMO, the 'M' is the sweet spot in that line-up. I loved the original S212, but was less impressed with the revised model. The M212 sounds like a bit 'bigger' version of the original S212.... punchy, articulate, very lightweight. Nice box.

The tweeter/crossover is very cool in the S/M/L lines.... change in level and crossover point, resulting in a lot of tonal options. The 6 position switch is inside one of the cup handles on the side of the cab.... very protected. Nice design (assuming they haven't changed it... been a while since I really checked these out).

nostatic · #20 08-16-2012, 11:12 AM

The M212 kills. Flat out kills. The pair of XS112s is plenty loud and punchy but doesn't have quite the same low extension.