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|Zstur ||09-22-2013 06:20 PM |
Acoustic B600h for a synth?
Any experience with this? I purchased a synthesizer (Novation Bass Station 2) but I don't have an amp for it. My friend has an Acoustic B600 Head, and an Avatar 212 cab. I just don't want to drive for two hours just to test it out.
My main purpose with the synth is to create mostly smooth bass lines. But I'd also like some dubstep, some fuzz and some melodies.
Also, I plan on using it for our practice sessions mostly. And maybe some small local gigs.
Since I'm positive the low end will be fine with this setup, I guess I'm mostly wondering if this head and cab will be good for some high end ranges?
|christw ||09-22-2013 07:50 PM |
The head has a clean tone and good tone shaping. I'd say that will sound just fine as long as you find a good cabinet.
Chances are the Avatar will have 212's running up to 4kHz-ish? and then crossover to a variable tweeter. The cabinet's response not be necessarily flat and linear. It'll have it's little peaks and valley in the frequency response. You may or may not notice or care. It won't be totally clean like a PA though so if you're looking for that, you might look elsewhere. The Avatar TB153 or Carvin 15.3 would work well for budget full range cabs if that turns out to be what you're after.
|RickenBoogie ||09-23-2013 09:10 AM |
As a heavy user of synthesizers, I can honestly suggest that you find a Roland KC series amp, KC350 or KC550, for much better results.
If the cab has the older ceramic - read heavy - Eminence Delta 12's - or the second generation neo's then it will be Ok. The low end on the first generation neo 12 version of that cab was weak... Out of the three versions I owned, the heavy old Delta equipped version was the best sounding. Replacing the crossover and tweeter actually made it a pretty decent cab.
I'm not particularly impressed with Guitar Center's house brand Acoustic amps. They feel kinda cheesy to me. I mixed a band from Boise where the kbd guy was running the BH600 into the Acoustic 8x10. These folks were kinda neo-punk and the kbd guy's left hand was the bass. It was rather loud, seemed pretty solid. Didn't sound all that good to me but that may have been by design given the genre...
... or one of the Roland amps mentioned above. A guy I used to gig with had the 350 and it was a very loud amp for him and would go plenty deep. He played an 88 key electric piano using grand piano and Hammond patches mostly. I never had troubles hearing him - just had to tell him to sit on his left hand a lot :-)
|Zstur ||09-23-2013 05:05 PM |
Cool, so it's kinda sounding like most people are suggesting that I would need to look at the specs/parts of the bass amp/cab to see if it gets those highs I'd like. I'll ask my friend about his speakers. But it also seems like a Keyboard amp is simply the safest route.
|Zstur ||09-23-2013 05:07 PM |
I might just try my bandmates PA system then, since I'm strapped on cash and can't get new nice keyboard amp. Or maybe look at buying a subwoofer for that PA if I want some deeper tones. I've been doing more research, and I do want the full spectrum of tones that this synth offers, which is both deep lows and high highs.
|RickenBoogie ||09-23-2013 06:54 PM |
...and that's what the Roland amps do. Same as a miniature PA system, complete with 4 channel mixer.
|Zstur ||09-25-2013 02:42 PM |
I think you guys, and others convinced me to seek a keyboard amp or pa system for this. Because I definitely want the FULL RANGE. But I might get a bass amp or subwoofer later on down the road too. Thanks Guys!
|dspellman ||09-25-2013 02:49 PM |
You might look for a Carvin LS1503 cabinet http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/LS1503
They run about $269 new, will handle about 800W:
Essentially a PA-style cabinet with good bottom end, fairly decent response.
You'll still want a good power amp and perhaps a cheap mixer to go with it.
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