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01-13-2011, 08:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mesa AZ. | | | Advice on new rig ?????????
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O.K, so here it goes. I am in the market for a new bass rig.
Main reason? I want lighter cabs that deliver the goods.
I play in cover bands and am a weekend warrior. My price range is about 3k
Here is what I have....
Schroeder 1210
Pluses..... I use this cab the most because of the size and weight. I use it for almost all band practices and gigs. It has enough throw for me to hear myself in most situations.
cons... This cab does not have the cleanest most desirable sound.
Ampeg BXT 4x10 HLF
pluses... (Yes, the Wooten/Bailey cab) This cab delivers the goods for every situation. It has a rich deep sound and takes whatever I throw at it. It is loud and clear
cons... it weights 122 lbs. and I do not like taking it anywhere unless I absolutely have too.
Eden 6x10 cab
plusses... massive sound, tons of the tone I love it.
cons....This cab is brand new and has been sitting in my spare bedroom for 2 years. I have only had one occasion to use it. it is heavy and cumbersome. I just want to get
rid of it. My friends say to keep it around for the occasional "big gig". They may be right and they do come along once in a while, however, it just seems like such a waste.
Now to the heads.
My trusty 12 year old SWR SM-500.
This is the first quality amp I ever purchased. It has never given my problems. It sounds good with all the above mentioned cabs and I am always able to dial in a good sound with it because I know it so well.
Eden Navigator pre with QSC amp. Also an awesome head that I can always dial in a good tone with ( a little more challenging with my Schroeder cab).
To sum it up, I want a light weight rig that sounds most pleasant. I don't want weight or size to be a factor in my decision to use it.
I am open all criticism, suggestions and bashings.
Please speak from practical experience
thank you.
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Fender American Jazz 4
Musicman Stingray HH 4
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Genz Benz STL 900
Eden 6x10 XLT
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01-13-2011, 10:08 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southern DE | | | I can only speak from personal experience, but after having various configurations of 2x10, 1x15 and 4x10 (mostly SWR WorkingPro stuff) , 2 or 3 different heads, etc., I sold all of it and bought a Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0 and a Uber 410.
Best rig I have ever owned, and more headroom then I have use for. Roughly 70 lbs for the cab, but I can pick it up by myself if necessary, and it has built-in casters. The head is like 4 lbs, I think. Sounds phenomenal. I play weekends like you, and have yet to come up short on volume. This amp/cab combination is well worth looking into, IMHO. | 
01-14-2011, 10:19 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mesa AZ. | | | I am interested in checking out the GB stuff. I think I am leaning towards a light weight 4x10, 2x12 or a 3x10 (epifani). I would like to keep it under 60 lbs. with wheels. Oh the joy of getting older. I lugged around a Goliath 6x10 for years.
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Musicman Stingray HH 4
Tacoma Thunder Chief 4
Genz Benz Neo 212XT
Genz Benz STL 900
Eden 6x10 XLT
Line 6 G-50 Wireless
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01-14-2011, 10:34 AM
|  | passionate hack | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Malone, NY/ Montreal, Quebec | | | Avatar TB153 full range cab (nEarful concept-65 lbs and as loud as your 410, prolly deeper) with micro head of choice to pump 500 watts at 4 Ohms. Done. Zero tonal or volume compromise IMHO and a wad of Ben Franklins left over.
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01-14-2011, 10:49 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York, NY | | | The Epifani 2x12 is excellent - Match with a TC RH450 or wait for the Aggie Tone Hammer 500 and you should be good to go for almost any gig
If you want to go bigger get two 2X12's and and Aggie DB751.
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01-14-2011, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lomo Avatar TB153 full range cab (nEarful concept-65 lbs and as loud as your 410, prolly deeper) with micro head of choice to pump 500 watts at 4 Ohms. Done. Zero tonal or volume compromise IMHO and a wad of Ben Franklins left over. | ^^^^^^^^
this
my TB153 will be here tomorrow, and soon, a 700RB-II! | 
01-14-2011, 12:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Germantown, MD | | Quote:
Originally Posted by lomo Avatar TB153 full range cab (nEarful concept-65 lbs and as loud as your 410, prolly deeper) with micro head of choice to pump 500 watts at 4 Ohms. Done. Zero tonal or volume compromise IMHO and a wad of Ben Franklins left over. | ^This if the size and weight meet your criteria.
Or else you can look into the Thunderchild 112's if you want even more lightweight and portability.
Im also in a coverband and a weekend warrior, but I went with the MB210 combo because my size limitations are VERY VERY compact.
Or the barefaced stuff seems to also fit the bill with your 3k pricerange.
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01-14-2011, 02:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Benicia, CA | | | Go se faulknersj play with the JJ's Band. He's in Scottsdale I believe. He's currently gigging the Avatar TB153. I would go see it in action if I were you. | 
01-14-2011, 04:56 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norton, MA | | | I'm a weekend warrior myself and the Epifani UL212 will do incredibly well. Pair it with a 700+ watt head and you're good to go. I'm currently using the Markbass SD800 or a pre/power setup and the cab boots.
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01-14-2011, 05:18 PM
| | | Weekend warrior also, but maybe not as high-end… I don’t even know what I’d do with $3k, haha…
but to me, light means “light”, and if I can’t pick it up with one hand easily, it may as well be heavy.
Shopping wisely (okay, some luck) my new rig comes to $684- actual street price $900.
GK MB500 amp (3.75 lbs), and a 4-ohm GK 212MBE(34 lbs)... That’ll be my gig rig when the head comes in, which is 100 watts more than I’m running now, and I don’t even need that.
Guitarist used to frustrate me- now it’s just a matter of doing what I have to do.
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01-14-2011, 05:47 PM
| | | | Sell the Schroeder and ampeg and get a
Eden d212xlt and d115xl
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01-14-2011, 08:09 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mesa AZ. | | | I am really interested in the GB Neo x 212t.
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Line 6 G-50 Wireless
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01-14-2011, 08:15 PM
|  | One lab accident away from being a supervillain | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Powder Springs, Ga | | | I can't say enough good things about the Genz Benz Uber 212. Ive used it with a few different heads and liked it with all of them. I'd love to try it with one of their new Streamliner heads. That would be a whole lot of whoomp in a sub-80 lb package.
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01-15-2011, 10:26 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indianapolis, IN | | Quote:
Originally Posted by pgullo64 The Epifani 2x12 is excellent | +1
This is the best cab I have ever played through. Only 56lbs
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01-15-2011, 05:19 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bothell, WA | | | 7lb power amp will put out 1000-1500 watts, pedal pre to drive it. Cab-wise, a fEarful 15/6 with lighweight materials might fit the bill. | 
01-16-2011, 12:05 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mesa AZ. | | | Well, I ordered a GB Neo x212T . It seems like a good replacement for both my Schroeder and Ampeg cab. I like everything about it. This is the first time I have purchased a cab on the net. I am hoping my SWR SM-500 or Eden WP 100/QSC setup will sound good with it. If not than I guess I'll give the Shuttle a try. Thanks for all the replies.
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Warwick Streamer LX SE 4
Fender American Jazz 4
Musicman Stingray HH 4
Tacoma Thunder Chief 4
Genz Benz Neo 212XT
Genz Benz STL 900
Eden 6x10 XLT
Line 6 G-50 Wireless
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01-20-2011, 10:04 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mesa AZ. | | The cab is here! The cab is here! I know, no pics no cab. I will post some tomorrow. So far it is what I expected. I have a jam this weekend (the only true measure). So far it sounds really good with my Eden/QSC head (Fender Jazz). 
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Warwick Streamer LX SE 4
Fender American Jazz 4
Musicman Stingray HH 4
Tacoma Thunder Chief 4
Genz Benz Neo 212XT
Genz Benz STL 900
Eden 6x10 XLT
Line 6 G-50 Wireless
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