Aguilar GS112 vs Markbass 104hf vs Berg AE410

michricker · #1 08-14-2010, 07:59 PM

I currently have a markbass LMIII with two Aguilar GS112 cabinets. One with tweeter and one without. I play both a Lakland JO USA and a Rick 4003. I play in a cover band which primarily focues on 90's style rock/pop/funk with a splash of classic rock. The aggi 112 stack just seems to kind of lag in response feel/articulation.

How about a markbass 104hf (4ohm) or a berg Ae410 as a replacement for the 2 gs112 stack? Can you guys comment on the tone differences and feel? It just seems tha 10's have a faster response when you strike the stings compared to 12's?

michricker · #2 08-15-2010, 07:00 AM

Good Sunday Morning

blockinlay · #3 08-15-2010, 07:04 AM

I have the Berg. Compared to the pair of 15" neo filled cabs I was using, it was night and day. I'm selling the 15's.

Jimmy Stump · #4 08-15-2010, 07:27 AM

I voted AE410.

I like the Bergantino sound. That said, I would prefer the 2 x 1 x 12" confirguartion for ease of loading and options for smaller versus larger gigs. I use an AE210 and will add a second in time.

I don't care for the Markbass cabinets, personally.

michricker · #5 08-15-2010, 07:59 AM

Are the berg speakers made himself or are they outsourced to Eminence, B&C, etc. I know Eden makes there own speakers.

What in your opinion makes the berg cabs so much more expensive? I know most people would say its up to the user, however there is no Bergantino Dealer within 300 miles from me to try out some cabs. Maybe it's the engineering your paying for?

MG Bass · #6 08-15-2010, 06:46 PM

They use customised Eminence to Bergantino specifications. Not the "off the shelf" type Eminence drivers.

michricker · #7 08-15-2010, 07:19 PM

Also, I wish I had thought of it when I posted the poll but I'm also interested in comparing the Epifani UL410. How does that compare the the cabs in the poll? I would run that with a little mark iii and looking for a good finger style, quick, deep and punchy tone.

air_leech · #8 08-15-2010, 07:30 PM

not exactly your situation but in the same ballpark - I use an SA450 (basically a souped up LMII) with a pair of Aggie DB112s and I also own a sealed Markbass Classic 4x10.
frankly the 450 with the Aggies is quick, deep and punchy as hell (especially with a bass VT in the chain).
I find the 4X10 in compraison is a little a bit punchier (I guess the sealed design and the tens attribute to that), less deep in the lows and maybe a tad tighter sounding due to the less bassy nature.

Jimmy Stump · #9 08-16-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by michricker

Also, I wish I had thought of it when I posted the poll but I'm also interested in comparing the Epifani UL410. How does that compare the the cabs in the poll? I would run that with a little mark iii and looking for a good finger style, quick, deep and punchy tone.

Epifani's are good too. Full sounding cabs, good bottom end, and maybe a bit scooped in the midrange.

Really, any Berg, Epi, Aguilar cabinet should be good stuff. Lots of folks like Markbass cabs too, though I do not personally.

lomo · #10 08-16-2010, 10:37 AM

Knowing which head you use will help

daflores · #11 08-16-2010, 11:57 AM

My other rig consists of 2 GS112s (1 is an NT model) powered by an Aggie db750. I get great response from that set up.

Whitbass · #12 08-16-2010, 04:51 PM

AE410 gets my nod, though its what I have right now, and have the most experience with out of the one's named.....
The AE410 has a fast, punchy, tight tone.......though tight, a good B-string really sounds good......
this is not a wide open sounding cab by nature, but that's why I like it....

its sounds rich and deep, but its a tight audible deep.......
it really speaks.......

I use with an LMII btw

Doug Parent · #13 08-16-2010, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michricker

I currently have a markbass LMIII with two Aguilar GS112 cabinets. One with tweeter and one without. I play both a Lakland JO USA and a Rick 4003. I play in a cover band which primarily focues on 90's style rock/pop/funk with a splash of classic rock. The aggi 112 stack just seems to kind of lag in response feel/articulation.

How about a markbass 104hf (4ohm) or a berg Ae410 as a replacement for the 2 gs112 stack? Can you guys comment on the tone differences and feel? It just seems tha 10's have a faster response when you strike the stings compared to 12's?

The GS112 is slower sounding for sure, but it's very deep/scooped compared to any 4-10 probably. I have the Epi UL2-410 and it's fast and in your face, much more so than the Aggie. I own both too BTW.

Having had some Berg cabs I can say it's one of if not THE best designed/sounding cabs I've ever heard. The AE410 gets great reviews.

Markbass cabinets are not my thing either. I heard a MB 2-10 that sounded like a sub-woofer with a tweeter.

michricker · #14 08-16-2010, 06:37 PM

The head I'm going to be running is primarily a LM III. I also am planning on picking up a F500 soon as a primary/or backup depending how I like it compared to the LM III. I heard its a little faster, more agressive, and punchy..

I also have a vintage SVT which I primarily run through a NV610. I doubt I'll be running that through the new 410 I end up with.

Thanks for all the feedback

rodneyat · #15 08-16-2010, 07:11 PM

Of the options listed, I would go with the AE410. You also may want to look at the AE212. It has a bit more low end and the top end is not quite as "brittle" as the AE410. I would not call the AE410 brittle at all. But, that is the easiest word I could find to compare them. Surprisingly enough, the AE212 is every bit as loud as the AE410, as well. I have tried both of them with an LMII and F1. Both combinations were killer

michricker · #16 08-18-2010, 07:03 PM

Well I just ended up ordering a used AE410 from Bass Central this afternoon. It is a blemish 2008 model. As long as it is structurally good with some nicks I would rather save the $$!! Should have it Monday for a Wednesday night gig......I'll run my LMIII. I'm also curious if this cab will be a good match for my vintage 71 SVT head?....excited to try her out...

Now I have some extra cash to also potentially get a AE212 for a real gig comparision. If anyone has an AE212 they are interested in selling let me know, love to give one a try/comparison.