AK Thunderchild sitting horizontal??

[NickCormier]

Ok, I am considering afew different cabs for the future.. and one of the ones that intrigue me the most, is the AK Thunderchild. Not only does it sound like its a great small cab, one of my friends from a guitar forum I visit has one and mentioned it works great for other instruments like Guitar also.. Which is what I want, something that can primarily do bass, but works with other instruments.

Something I was wondering though, since I have a 2U rackmount head that wouldnt fit on it while its vertical (without having room on the edges, which scares me)... How will it sound if the AK Thunderchild is horizontal??

Will it make a big difference in sound if it is horizontal?

for everyone to picture it, this is the AK Thunderchild veritcal.. now imagine that placed on its side.




I dont really want to hear the "Just put your head on the ground or somewhere else" responses, solely wondering if having this or any other horn amp horizontal would drastically alter the sound to where it is detrimental.

[greenboy]

It would detract from a lot of why the cab is great: good horizontal dispersion. Read more of the techie stuff around here including what Duke has written about this cab.

EDIT: You might consider posting in the Thunderchild thread where you'd be more likely to get an answer from Duke himself, but that horn in pattern if I recall is 90 horizontal by 45 or 50 degrees vertical. So the pattern is wide but not so tall. Now put it perpendicular and it becomes 45 horizontal by 90 vertical - the opposite of the way rooms are typically used for listening audiences.

Unless you are on Uranus.

[Passinwind]

My shallow 4 unit rack sat just fine on the cab as-is when I tried it at a GTG. A few inches of overlap on each side is no big deal IME. I've been gigging other cabs for decades that way.

I have the same horn in one of my DIY cabs. It is nominally a 90 X 50 degree piece BTW. Personally, I would not even think about using it on its side on my gigs, after having tried it at home (with my cab, not Duke's). But hey, it's your money...

As far as other horns, I have heard some that still sounded pretty nice oriented "sideways", but they also had less difference between the vertical and horizontal dispersion numbers. They also tended to sit closer to my ears than a TC cab on the floor does.

[mrkreuzschlitz]

Try it. If it sounds bad, don't do it.

[GrowlerBox]

Originally Posted by mrkreuzschlitz

Try it. If it sounds bad, don't do it.

If you're using it as a stage monitor and have to stand right over it, it might actually work OK like that.

On the other hand, have you considered putting the cab on top of the rack unit? The universe might collapse in on itself, of course, but if it worked out for the CERN boyz, who knows ...?

[JimmyM]

ya, put the cab on top of the rack. unless, of course, it causes rattling.

[GrowlerBox]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

ya, put the cab on top of the rack. unless, of course, it causes rattling.

... in which case, you could put something between the cab and the rack case to stop the rattling. Like, I don't know, a bunny rabbit at each corner. I'm sure Greenboy has the appropriate picture for the occasion.

[Calaverasgrande]

or you could stop using girly man PA speakers and get a real bass cab that doesnt flinch at holding up a head?

[DukeLeJeune]

Originally Posted by NickCormier

How will it sound if the AK Thunderchild is horizontal??

Will it make a big difference in sound if it is horizontal?

Originally Posted by greenboy

It would detract from... good horizontal dispersion.

...that horn pattern if I recall is 90 horizontal by 45 or 50 degrees vertical. So the pattern is wide but not so tall. Now put it perpendicular and it becomes 45 horizontal by 90 vertical - the opposite of the way rooms are typically used for listening.

What he said, sorry. fEarful 12/6/1 would work much better on its side, I think.

Originally Posted by Calaverasgrande

or you could stop using girly man PA speakers and get a real bass cab that doesnt flinch at holding up a head?

Oh stop it, you big brute!

[rpsands]

1. use a sturdy rack. e.g. an anvil, with rubber feet on the bottom.

2. put the TC on top of the rack.