All Genz Benz products on "standby" by Fender ?? - Page 29

B-string · #**561** 01-26-2013, 03:59 PM

Too many "K"s and "F"s around here? Give us a uc and we could all get violation notices from the mods!

Country Joe (and the Fish) would be proud?

**svtb15** · #**562** 01-26-2013, 04:06 PM

+1

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Originally Posted by B-string

Too many "K"s and "F"s around here? Give us a uc and we could all get violation notices from the mods!

Country Joe (and the Fish) would be proud?

**svtb15** · #**563** 01-26-2013, 04:09 PM

Been following this thread for a while...
man.. I have turned dozens and dozens of people onto Genz... I hope they prevail.. Great company and people...Jeff is a sweetheart of a guy as is Andy .... I would follow them anywhere they went if worst came to worst.. But for now im just not going to follow rumor until i see something official.. But no presence at NAMM is disturbing

Not yet · #**564** 01-26-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by svtb15

Been following this thread for a while...
man.. I have turned dozens and dozens of people onto Genz... I hope they prevail.. Great company and people...Jeff is a sweetheart of a guy as is Andy .... I would follow them anywhere they went if worst came to worst.. But for now im just not going to follow rumor until i see something official.. But no presence at NAMM is disturbing

Has your endorsement contract been renewed if I may ask....that might be an indication of clouds on the horizon...

Most disturbing fact to me is the lack of response to all of this. We know Andy minimally pays alot of attention to this forum

At the same time I heard from both of them this week business as usual, so like William Goldman says , noone knows anything

mattbass6945 · #**565** 01-26-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by B-string

Too many "K"s and "F"s around here? Give us a uc and we could all get violation notices from the mods!

Country Joe (and the Fish) would be proud?

well played, sir. well played, indeed.....

dukeorock · #**566** 01-26-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Not yet

Has your endorsement contract been renewed if I may ask....that might be an indication of clouds on the horizon...

I've been a Genz endorser for a couple years...Kirk's deal may be different, but for me, there were a couple conversations, a handshake, and they had a full rig shipped to my house within a week. Endorsements are usually more about personal relationships than paper, in my experience

JTE · #**567** 01-26-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveC

We're things at Genz Benz so bad they felt they had to sell?

OK, now follow along, because it seems you haven't read enough of the thread to understand the history. Fender Musical Instrument Corporation who also owns Guild (since 1995), SWR, Fender, Jackson, etc. bought Kaman Music (who owns GB, Takamine, Ovation, CB700, Hamer, etc.).

Jeff Genz apparently had already sold at least part of GB a long while ago.

John

Joeykun · #**568** 01-26-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dukeorock

I've been a Genz endorser for a couple years...Kirk's deal may be different, but for me, there were a couple conversations, a handshake, and they had a full rig shipped to my house within a week. Endorsements are usually more about personal relationships than paper, in my experience

+1 exactly.

lowfreq33 · #**569** 01-26-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dukeorock

I've been a Genz endorser for a couple years...Kirk's deal may be different, but for me, there were a couple conversations, a handshake, and they had a full rig shipped to my house within a week. Endorsements are usually more about personal relationships than paper, in my experience

That's pretty much how it went with me as well.

Medford Bassman · #**570** 01-26-2013, 06:45 PM

I dont want to be downer Dan but honestly? No booth at NAMM? Lame Fender statement?
You all know what that means

joelb79 · #**571** 01-26-2013, 06:55 PM

My local shop has been blowing Genz Benz stuff, I might add. They didn't seem too assured they would be getting any more GB stuff either; but they do want to keep stocking the cheaper combos from them. But then again, not a lot of bass stuff changes hands in that store unless its used/consigned or Squier/cheap.

Edit: I see; these are discontinued models, with updated newer versions out now. This store has older stuff waiting for buyers. Bet you the STM-600 is the same one that came in when they were first released.

jasonbraatz · #**572** 01-26-2013, 07:06 PM

Whenever Fender doesn't screw up a bass brand that will be the first time.

I happened to start touring heavily with SWR stuff a little bit after Fender bought them. Woof.

two fingers · #**573** 01-26-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boristhespider9

You have to look at the long term. Some initial findings is meaningless if they fold up the company you built.

Nah. A "legacy" (in the bass or business world) means nothing to me. But feeding my kids and seeing to it that they have everything they need and most of the stuff they want means a lot. I can come up with more great ideas if I came up with some to begin with. But if a company ever waved a huge check in my face to buy something I created (be it an idea or an entire company) I owe it to my family to take that now and figure out what's next later.

Again, if I came up with great ideas once, I can do it again.

superjesus · #**574** 01-26-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonbraatz

Whenever Fender doesn't screw up a bass brand that will be the first time.

I happened to start touring heavily with SWR stuff a little bit after Fender bought them. Woof.

Speaking of SWR...

All this talk of GB, but we've lost track of where all these nasty rumors really began. Everybody seems to be assuming SWR's gone, but does anybody know if SWR's really going the way of Hamer?

Mick D. · #**575** 01-26-2013, 08:15 PM

I heard from reliable sources that the product manager for SWR & Genz Benz was fired right before the show. Both lines are being moved to dormancy so that Fender can concentrate on the Fender line of bass amps.

wvbass · #**576** 01-26-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick D.

I heard from reliable sources that the product manager for SWR & Genz Benz was fired right before the show. Both lines are being moved to dormancy so that Fender can concentrate on the Fender line of bass amps.

Is that Hapa? I don't think his sig says anything about Fender/Genz/SWR anymore...

bassman2 · #**577** 01-26-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mattbass6945

bassman2, come back to tubes! you're one of us, we've missed you......

Do 3-12AX7A's count?? lol On the bright side....it's cheaper than 6-6550's

Jim C · #**578** 01-26-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick D.

I heard from reliable sources that the product manager for SWR & Genz Benz was fired right before the show. Both lines are being moved to dormancy so that Fender can concentrate on the Fender line of bass amps.

Classy
(if true)

B-string · #**579** 01-26-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim C

Classy
(if true)

With the typical corporate: "You have someone you can call for a ride home, right." ?

AllFourths · #**580** 01-26-2013, 10:06 PM

I am sorry to say that there was no Genz presence at NAMM. They were nowhere to be found, including on the full list of participating vendors. I can take a shot of the list for you all if you'd like, but I'm sure plenty of other TBers can confirm.