All Genz Benz products on "standby" by Fender ?? - Page 40

guy n. cognito · #**781** 01-30-2013, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerInATrance

Actually, capitalism had nothing to do with it. Our natural resources allowed us to build national wealth, which allowed us to spend rediculous amounts of cash raising, maintaining, and expanding the military industrial complex for the last 75 years. This has allowed us to exert influence on the rest of the world while giving us the military power to press those of differing opinion back into line.

The only hand capitalism has in that is providing the tax dollars to fund ever expanding war machine.

That is, however, immaterial to the discussion at hand, except to say that capitalism in general, and the corporate way of life as it currently exists, is at odds with the best interests of the consumer at large.

Wow. We've gone from Genz to the American military machine. Amazing.

Bassmanbob · #**782** 01-30-2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

Or, there's nothing going on. And therefore nothing to discuss...

With this being said, anyone taking bets on how long this thread (and possibly part 2 or 3) will continue?

swspiers · #**783** 01-30-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by guy n. cognito

Wow. We've gone from Genz to the American military machine. Amazing.

Well, some do claim they're 'bullet proof'

GregC · #**784** 01-30-2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by svtb15

Here is your Black Helicopter
Black Helicopters over Miami http://connect.freedomworks.org/news...=node%2F345967

Damn, now I have to wash the crazy off me.

swspiers · #**785** 01-30-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bassmanbob

With this being said, anyone taking bets on how long this thread (and possibly part 2 or 3) will continue?

A long, long time.

Regardless if Talk Bass is a small sampling of the bass community, Genz Benz is a brand that is loved by a lot of players.

I keep coming back to this thread because I actually care about Genz Benz. I keep coming back to TB because I can filter most of the nonsense.

Vic · #**786** 01-30-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KJung

aaarghhh....

Genz Benz is a brand, not a company. Sadowsky is a company.

...AND a brand. Genz Benz was both a company and a brand (like Sadowsky), but became only a brand when it was first acquired (even though as I understand it it still more or less behaved as a company... though still a choice made by the acquirer).

Bottom line is, Fender will make whatever decisions will serve its success best. Whether that will be in alignment with what the current Genz Benz fan base wants or not, only time will tell.

All I can say is, I would consider it foolish on Fender's part to not take the talent the GB (KMC) acquisition brings to the table seriously, and take advantage of it in some form or another... regardless of if that results in something with the GB brand on it or not.

We shall see.

KJung · #**787** 01-30-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Vic

...AND a brand. Genz Benz was both a company and a brand (like Sadowsky), but became only a brand when it was first acquired (even though as I understand it it still more or less behaved as a company... though still a choice made by the acquirer)

Well, of course it was a company before it was acquired. That was years ago.

AMp'D.2play · #**788** 01-30-2013, 09:21 AM

Awww, Jeez! This thread was sustaining enough momentum to possibly reach 1,000 posts by the weekend. If we're going to add the tinfoil hats to the black helicopters, Part 2 will never see the light of day!

How much longer until we blame the "demise" of Genz Benz on the Bilderberg group?!

KJung · #**789** 01-30-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AMp'D.2play

Awww, Jeez! This thread was sustaining enough momentum to possibly reach 1,000 posts by the weekend. If we're going to add the tinfoil hats to the black helicopters, Part 2 will never see the light of day!

How much longer until we blame the "demise" of Genz Benz on the Bilderberg group?!

+1 The rants against 'the man' are pretty funny actually. God help us all.

willsellout · #**790** 01-30-2013, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by guy n. cognito

Wow. We've gone from Genz to the American military machine. Amazing.

It's also a factually incorrect interpretation of the rise of America as a superpower. Some would say it's Oliver Stone-esque, even

**svtb15** · #**791** 01-30-2013, 09:32 AM

One more post to get it to the 1000 mark...

Rockin Mike · #**792** 01-30-2013, 09:38 AM

I'd like to say something about Capitalism, Corporations, and United States Foreign Policy.

None of which has much to do with the thread topic, so I shall refrain.

Timmah · #**793** 01-30-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by svtb15

One more post to get it to the 1000 mark...

What? I think it's still in the 790s

**Chef** · #**794** 01-30-2013, 09:44 AM

I'm wearing mine now.

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Originally Posted by AMp'D.2play

tinfoil hats

**svtb15** · #**795** 01-30-2013, 09:44 AM

I meant, one more brick in the wall towards the proverbial 1000.. now we have 3 closer

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What? I think it's still in the 790s

**svtb15** · #**796** 01-30-2013, 09:45 AM

Dont laugh, it works!

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I'm wearing mine now.

**Chef** · #**797** 01-30-2013, 09:46 AM

I can't hear you.
I have my hat on.

Febs · #**798** 01-30-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KJung

Well, of course it was a company before it was acquired. That was years ago.

It is possible that GB continued to be a separate company after it was acquired, depending on how the acquisition was structured.

Timmah · #**799** 01-30-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by svtb15

I meant, one more brick in the wall towards the proverbial 1000.. now we have 3 closer

I see.

KJung · #**800** 01-30-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Febs

It is possible that GB continued to be a separate company after it was acquired, depending on how the acquisition was structured.

Again, my comments are about Genz not being at NAMM this year. In previous years, just like all the other KMC brands (

) they had their own little corner of the KMC booth.

That did not happen this year. Could it be that there is just a bit of rebranding and change of product line coming since they were (from reports) put directly under the parent company (Fender).? Absolutely.

A COMPANY not showing up at NAMM is not that unusual and means little (for example, MESA no longer believes the huge expenditure of time and money pays out for them in having a booth). However, a parent company not showing one (or more) of their brands in their booth is a little more ominous for those brands (or at least seems to signal a possible change for the brand, which might actually end up being a positive).

Put this in the context of the parent company (Fender) wanting to go public and having a hard time at it (per a recent NYTimes artical), and the possible consolidation of brands and renewed emphasis on core businesses and brands is a pretty common thing.