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05-25-2011, 12:14 PM
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I have each of these speakers and just picked up an old tl606.
Are either of these speakers good for the cab? I don't know how to read & understand spec sheets, that's why I'm asking for help.
Would I be better off saving money for a 3015?
I'll probably only use it with my B15S as an extension or by itself.(I've made the amp a head.)
Thanks in advance.
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05-25-2011, 01:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA | | | The 3015 seems like a waste of money when you only have 60 watts to feed it. Priced one recently?
Offhand, I'd think the Altec would be the classic choice, but why not try 'em both, and see which you prefer? |
05-25-2011, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1n3  The 3015 seems like a waste of money when you only have 60 watts to feed it. Priced one recently?
Offhand, I'd think the Altec would be the classic choice, but why not try 'em both, and see which you prefer? |
True, very pricey!
I guess I will have to just try. Want to avoid wrecking a speaker, though.
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05-25-2011, 02:12 PM
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Builder for Audiokinesis and Fearful speakers Endorser for EA, Roscoe | | | | | The 421a is the epitome of the classic 60's sound. Better than JBL's IMHO. I've got a blown one that I was going to get reconed. Maybe I'll sell it. BTW---if you get a 421a you have to file off the ribs on the mounting side to front-mount. I've already done that on mine. |
05-25-2011, 02:18 PM
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05-25-2011, 02:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA | | even better than the JBL E140? 
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05-25-2011, 02:51 PM
| | | | I've got a pair of 421's in an old Peavey cabinet.
Very nice tone but they don't take loads of power.
Easiset thing would be to try each and report back since you have them; I'd be interested to know your opinion.
Also had a Sunn 2x15 with JBL's but that was too long ago to be able to compare. |
05-25-2011, 02:58 PM
| | Uhh... FaFaFooey is BaBaBooey... | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. Louis | | | Right now, the CB15 is in the B15S cabinet.
I think I'll put the Altec back in there and the CB15 in the tl 606 so I don't have to sand down the ribs on the Altec.
Also, I can use the tl606 with the CB15 with other heads as I plan to either find another or build one.
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05-25-2011, 03:08 PM
| | | | My expectations would be in favor of the Eminence driver. |
05-25-2011, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by davelowell2 I guess I will have to just try. Want to avoid wrecking a speaker, though. | Why would using the speaker wreck it?
I'm sitting on an Altec, a JBL K140, and 3 EV (an M15L and 2 DL 15X) wishing I had a pair of TL606 or similar to load. Found a guy in Mich with 3 TL606 boxes for $25 each but we can't get past the shipping.
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05-25-2011, 03:30 PM
|  | Endorsing Curmudgeon: Mal's Kitchen Cruelties ... | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Columbia River Gorge | | | In that cab I'd opt for the very efficient Eminence 3015. Yes it is expensive. It is also a very, very good driver. My advice would be to save your sheckles until you can grab one. Use your existing Eminence in the meantime.
The 421 is too fragile - it's an awesome driver that deserves a nice sealed portaflex style box. (IMO, IMO !!)
BTW - Great Plains Audio is the place for Altec service.
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05-25-2011, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 4Mal In that cab I'd opt for the very efficient Eminence 3015. Yes it is expensive. It is also a very, very good driver. My advice would be to save your sheckles until you can grab one. Use your existing Eminence in the meantime.
The 421 is too fragile - it's an awesome driver that deserves a nice sealed portaflex style box. (IMO, IMO !!) | With only 60 watts there's nothing to be gained with the 3015, and no reason not to use the 421, which, BTW, doesn't have appropriate specs for a sealed cab. |
05-25-2011, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice With only 60 watts there's nothing to be gained with the 3015, and no reason not to use the 421, which, BTW, doesn't have appropriate specs for a sealed cab. | with due respect...
Durability - that is what is to be gained when using the 3015 in there. I've actually listened to a 3015 in a TL606 and it sounds pretty darned good. Several other TB'ers have had similar experiences. Chef for instance. Not to mention that if a larger amp comes along, we won't just shred the 421 too! The 421 is just about strong enough to take that 60 watts is my take on it. In spite of the magnet size, this is not a real beefy driver. IMO those factors make the 3015 a better choice.
As far as the 421 working in a sealed box, maybe the spec doesn't read that way but they sound fantastic in the sealed portaflex enclosure.
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05-25-2011, 08:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA | | | Sealed cabinet performance may be moot. I'll bet the OP's Portaflex cab is ported. |
05-25-2011, 08:31 PM
| | | | Gald to hear continued love for the 3015; UPS man just brought me one for my TL606 |
05-25-2011, 09:09 PM
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... the sealed portaflex enclosure.
| What portaflex cab is sealed? Other than the new PF115 and 210.
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05-26-2011, 12:15 AM
| | Endorsing Curmudgeon: Mal's Kitchen Cruelties ... | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Columbia River Gorge | | | was the original B15 not sealed? I recall it so but it's been ages...
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05-26-2011, 04:25 AM
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05-26-2011, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim C Gald to hear continued love for the 3015; UPS man just brought me one for my TL606 | You will love it! I have 2, and they are very good. |
05-26-2011, 07:08 AM
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