Alternative for Ibanez Promethean 1x10 or Markbass Mini CMD 121P ?

[Bergerac]

I have them at home now: the Ibanez Promethean 1x10 & the MB mini CMD 1x12

and have to say, I look still further for an alternative.

My A/B-test gives the following results

Ibanez
sound : I guess much better can such a tiny 10" combo not sound. And I guess this is mostly due to the speaker, the tweeter (plus crossover) and the cabinet design.
the amp is quite ok. lots of power. a little noise, but bearable.
the EQ section is not too good. With just using the graphic EQ it works for me. The rest of the EQ is not useful for my taste.
So far so good!
But What I absolutely dislike or hate is the noise of the fan!!! ( I know, most of the TBers say, fan-noise is hardly audible. I assume, Ibanez puts stronger fans in now, cause of overheat problems they had.)

SO I got the Mini CMD 121P for checking:
fan kicks in right from the start, noise is audible but bearable.
soundwise of course more lows, more ooomph, which is nice! (although the Ibanez is capable of a bass power which is hardly believable for the tiny 10" cab)

BUT in the upper register (high mids / low treble) this combo's cabinet sucks for my taste. It has some high treble but below there is really s.th missing. A/B-ing with the Ibanez shows this clearly.

Also the EQ section of the Mark lacks something IMO. The Low mid is too low for me (or the high mid too high).
And: the Mark has no Aux In or headphone out as the Ibanez.

So guys, the big question that remains is :

What can you recommend after reading all this??

Who offers a similar size / weight / wattage combo that could suit my needs and preferences ??

[Bassflute]

But it will cost you the price of both of these amps, and quite a bit more.

But that is a small price to pay for the best bass amp on earth. The thing is INCREDIBLE.

Since you're in Europe, there's also the Tecamp line, and the Hevos from Holland. Have heard the Tecamp stuff, it is very good, and have heard nothing but great reports about the Hevos stuff, so I imagine it is quite good, as well.

But I KNOW the Tecamp isn't as good as the AER, and I doubt very much that the Hevos is.

The AER Basscube is about the size of an old Roland cube, larger than the Ibanez, but still barely bigger than the 12" speaker that's in it, retails for $4,800.00. I imagine stores will sell it slightly cheaper. And yes, it sounds that good. Unbelievably good.

And there's no fan that I know of. If there is, it's dead silent.

Cheers,
Cameron

Originally Posted by Bergerac

I have them at home now: the Ibanez Promethean 1x10 & the MB mini CMD 1x12

and have to say, I look still further for an alternative.

My A/B-test gives the following results

Ibanez
sound : I guess much better can such a tiny 10" combo not sound. And I guess this is mostly due to the speaker, the tweeter (plus crossover) and the cabinet design.
the amp is quite ok. lots of power. a little noise, but bearable.
the EQ section is not too good. With just using the graphic EQ it works for me. The rest of the EQ is not useful for my taste.
So far so good!
But What I absolutely dislike or hate is the noise of the fan!!! ( I know, most of the TBers say, fan-noise is hardly audible. I assume, Ibanez puts stronger fans in now, cause of overheat problems they had.)

SO I got the Mini CMD 121P for checking:
fan kicks in right from the start, noise is audible but bearable.
soundwise of course more lows, more ooomph, which is nice! (although the Ibanez is capable of a bass power which is hardly believable for the tiny 10" cab)

BUT in the upper register (high mids / low treble) this combo's cabinet sucks for my taste. It has some high treble but below there is really s.th missing. A/B-ing with the Ibanez shows this clearly.

Also the EQ section of the Mark lacks something IMO. The Low mid is too low for me (or the high mid too high).
And: the Mark has no Aux In or headphone out as the Ibanez.

So guys, the big question that remains is :

What can you recommend after reading all this??

Who offers a similar size / weight / wattage combo that could suit my needs and preferences ??

[blakelock]

hey there,

you should look at the genz benz shuttle line. i have the 10" version. it sounds quite good, is ~18 lb, and runs ~$450 (used) - $650 (new). best bang for the buck and weight.

if you want to step it up, the mesa walkabout scout is 50 lbs, cost ~$800 (used) but will blow the promethean, MB, and GB out of the water.

[vin*tone]

I'd say Genz is your best bet too..... and give the GK MB112 a listen. The amp is the very basic MB200 so if you're fussy about your EQ etc you could use a Tone hammer or Eden pedal preamp. But the fan is quiet - great rehearsal amp.

[PaulNYC]

you might want to consider going separate amp and cab, but keep it small.