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Old 02-11-2013, 10:33 AM
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which amp to buy from these?

Hi

I'm looking for my first bass amp.
I'm thinking about these.

Warwick BC 150
Traynor Dynabass 200T
Ampeg BA115
Gallien Krueger MB112-II

Amp around 400Euro 497,09Dollar

Or guys do you have any suggestions?

distortion can be a pedal.

I have a Schecter Stiletto Studio-5
I'm thinking about tuning it down to F#
Now is A

I Love metal, hardrock, classic rock.
My favorite bands are
Amon Amarth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPRt6Tt6RyM

Meshuggah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UISjgLu8zBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9LpMZuBEMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc98u-eGzlc

Fieldy Korn

I hope you guys can help me

Tanks for replying
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:37 AM
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None of those are going to do low A at a high volume, F# below that is a no go. As long as you are of the understanding the physical limitations of those combo's you will be fine.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:46 AM
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Whitch amp around that buget can handle F# ?
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You are asking A LOT of a small combo down tuning! I believe the G-K's amp section would have the power reserve but none of those would have the speakers to handle it well at higher volume. IMO of course.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:49 AM
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Whitch amp around that buget can handle F# ?
Not many, if any.

There are a few bass cabs out there that will handle that type of down tuning at real volume, but they are not in-expensive. Your other option is to run your bass into some sort of PA, that uses mains and subs.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:51 AM
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Thanks.
Which mains and subs would you suggest?
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Well you are going to need some sort of main speaker, a cross over, a sub woofer, some sort of pre amp, and a channel on a power amp to run each of them.

You still are not looking at a budget rig.

May I ask where you are located?
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:55 AM
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I'm living in the Netherlands.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:58 AM
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are you looking for an amp that you could play with in a band or just at home for practice?
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:59 AM
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I'm living in the Netherlands.
I would hit up music stores and see what they have as far as PA goes.

Also consider looking to some of the new super cabs that use the Eminece 3015LF crossed over with a mid driver. Some of them are specifically designed to handle they type of tuning you are looking to use. Start saving pennies though.
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:01 AM
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I play at home Not i in a band.
If I'm good enough i wanna play in a band.
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:04 AM
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at home practice volumes any of the combos you mentioned would be good enough. if/when you play with a band then you would need to go for a serious upgrade. something in the 1000 watts+ and some good cab(s). I can't think of any combos that would be able to handle what you are asking at band/gig volumes.
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:06 AM
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at home practice volumes any of the combos you mentioned would be good enough. if/when you play with a band then you would need to go for a serious upgrade. something in the 1000 watts+ and some good cab(s). I can't think of any combos that would be able to handle what you are asking at band/gig volumes.
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This is spot on. As long as you understand the limitations of the combos you listed you will be ok with any of them. If something to transition to a band with you are going to need a lot of cab, and a fairly powerful amp.
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:18 AM
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Hi Dark-Gothic-Elf! Groeten uit Nederland .

There are few amps/cabs that actualy go down to a low F#. That's around 25Hz, near the hearing threshold! Those frequencies are useless at home (and in any band IMHO). If you could find an installation that does produce 25, like a sub as suggested with a serious poweramp, your neighbours are going to shake on their couch while you hear practicly nothing. The next harmonic (50Hz) is the first useful one, but none of the cabs you suggest (or ANY other in that price range) are going to go that low. Even a low A or is a stretch.

But bass tones are made up of a lot of harmonics. Maybe what you are looking for is not the actual 25Hz. Maybe, for practice purposes, you're quite happy with the second or even third. Like Fieldy's style, it's mostly upper harmonics that gives his playing the definition. So as mentioned above, go to your local shop and play, try and listen.

Edit: I would go for 15" in your case.
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:23 AM
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To the OP:

I have a rig or two that will do what you want, just wont be in your budget right now.

fEARful 1515/66/1 with a Crest ProLite 3.0 pre/power set up.

fEARful Alphalite 12/6/1 x2 with a Carvin B1500.
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:25 AM
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Hi

I'm looking for my first bass amp.
I'm thinking about these.

Warwick BC 150
Traynor Dynabass 200T
Ampeg BA115
Gallien Krueger MB112-II

Amp around 400Euro 497,09Dollar

Or guys do you have any suggestions?

distortion can be a pedal.

I have a Schecter Stiletto Studio-5
I'm thinking about tuning it down to F#
Now is A

I Love metal, hardrock, classic rock.
My favorite bands are
Amon Amarth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPRt6Tt6RyM

Meshuggah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UISjgLu8zBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9LpMZuBEMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc98u-eGzlc

Fieldy Korn

I hope you guys can help me

Tanks for replying

Dude, get a headphone amp and pinch your pennies until you can get something that will work for your future band. If there is any advice I can give a new player is to buy once, cry once.

If you have no need for volume yet (i.e. you aren't jamming with people), get something small now and save money towards the bigger rig. Good Luck!
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:32 AM
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seeing his location, are there any trace elliott combos that would work for him?
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:32 AM
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Dude, get a headphone amp and pinch your pennies until you can get something that will work for your future band. If there is any advice I can give a new player is to buy once, cry once.

If you have no need for volume yet (i.e. you aren't jamming with people), get something small now and save money towards the bigger rig. Good Luck!
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:13 PM
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Hughes & kettner basskick 515 i can get secondhand for 275euro.
Will that work?
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Have you looked at the Vanderklays?
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