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02-11-2013, 10:37 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Grand Rapids Michigan | | | None of those are going to do low A at a high volume, F# below that is a no go. As long as you are of the understanding the physical limitations of those combo's you will be fine.
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Who the heck wants to "cut" through a mix anyway? I want to punch the mix in the balls. Anyone can cut through the mix. Not everyone can beat the mix's ass  | Greenboy-fEARful #53 "Bruce Banner" | 
02-11-2013, 10:46 AM
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Whitch amp around that buget can handle F# ? | 
02-11-2013, 10:46 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lake Havasu City, Az USA | | | You are asking A LOT of a small combo down tuning! I believe the G-K's amp section would have the power reserve but none of those would have the speakers to handle it well at higher volume. IMO of course.
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02-11-2013, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark-Gothic-Elf Thanks
Whitch amp around that buget can handle F# ? | Not many, if any.
There are a few bass cabs out there that will handle that type of down tuning at real volume, but they are not in-expensive. Your other option is to run your bass into some sort of PA, that uses mains and subs.
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Who the heck wants to "cut" through a mix anyway? I want to punch the mix in the balls. Anyone can cut through the mix. Not everyone can beat the mix's ass  | Greenboy-fEARful #53 "Bruce Banner" | 
02-11-2013, 10:51 AM
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Which mains and subs would you suggest? | 
02-11-2013, 10:54 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Grand Rapids Michigan | | | Well you are going to need some sort of main speaker, a cross over, a sub woofer, some sort of pre amp, and a channel on a power amp to run each of them.
You still are not looking at a budget rig.
May I ask where you are located?
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Who the heck wants to "cut" through a mix anyway? I want to punch the mix in the balls. Anyone can cut through the mix. Not everyone can beat the mix's ass  | Greenboy-fEARful #53 "Bruce Banner" | 
02-11-2013, 10:55 AM
| | | | I'm living in the Netherlands. | 
02-11-2013, 10:58 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ottawa, Ontario | | | are you looking for an amp that you could play with in a band or just at home for practice? | 
02-11-2013, 10:59 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Grand Rapids Michigan | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark-Gothic-Elf I'm living in the Netherlands. | I would hit up music stores and see what they have as far as PA goes.
Also consider looking to some of the new super cabs that use the Eminece 3015LF crossed over with a mid driver. Some of them are specifically designed to handle they type of tuning you are looking to use. Start saving pennies though.
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Who the heck wants to "cut" through a mix anyway? I want to punch the mix in the balls. Anyone can cut through the mix. Not everyone can beat the mix's ass  | Greenboy-fEARful #53 "Bruce Banner" | 
02-11-2013, 11:01 AM
| | | | I play at home Not i in a band.
If I'm good enough i wanna play in a band. | 
02-11-2013, 11:04 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ottawa, Ontario | | | at home practice volumes any of the combos you mentioned would be good enough. if/when you play with a band then you would need to go for a serious upgrade. something in the 1000 watts+ and some good cab(s). I can't think of any combos that would be able to handle what you are asking at band/gig volumes. | 
02-11-2013, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bassboysam at home practice volumes any of the combos you mentioned would be good enough. if/when you play with a band then you would need to go for a serious upgrade. something in the 1000 watts+ and some good cab(s). I can't think of any combos that would be able to handle what you are asking at band/gig volumes. | +1
This is spot on. As long as you understand the limitations of the combos you listed you will be ok with any of them. If something to transition to a band with you are going to need a lot of cab, and a fairly powerful amp.
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Who the heck wants to "cut" through a mix anyway? I want to punch the mix in the balls. Anyone can cut through the mix. Not everyone can beat the mix's ass  | Greenboy-fEARful #53 "Bruce Banner" | 
02-11-2013, 11:18 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands | | Hi Dark-Gothic-Elf! Groeten uit Nederland  .
There are few amps/cabs that actualy go down to a low F#. That's around 25Hz, near the hearing threshold! Those frequencies are useless at home (and in any band IMHO). If you could find an installation that does produce 25, like a sub as suggested with a serious poweramp, your neighbours are going to shake on their couch while you hear practicly nothing. The next harmonic (50Hz) is the first useful one, but none of the cabs you suggest (or ANY other in that price range) are going to go that low. Even a low A or is a stretch.
But bass tones are made up of a lot of harmonics. Maybe what you are looking for is not the actual 25Hz. Maybe, for practice purposes, you're quite happy with the second or even third. Like Fieldy's style, it's mostly upper harmonics that gives his playing the definition. So as mentioned above, go to your local shop and play, try and listen.
Edit: I would go for 15" in your case.
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02-11-2013, 11:23 AM
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I have a rig or two that will do what you want, just wont be in your budget right now.
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02-11-2013, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark-Gothic-Elf |
Dude, get a headphone amp and pinch your pennies until you can get something that will work for your future band. If there is any advice I can give a new player is to buy once, cry once.
If you have no need for volume yet (i.e. you aren't jamming with people), get something small now and save money towards the bigger rig. Good Luck!
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02-11-2013, 11:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: S/E Michigan | | | seeing his location, are there any trace elliott combos that would work for him? | 
02-11-2013, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeVictim Dude, get a headphone amp and pinch your pennies until you can get something that will work for your future band. If there is any advice I can give a new player is to buy once, cry once.
If you have no need for volume yet (i.e. you aren't jamming with people), get something small now and save money towards the bigger rig. Good Luck! | +1
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Who the heck wants to "cut" through a mix anyway? I want to punch the mix in the balls. Anyone can cut through the mix. Not everyone can beat the mix's ass  | Greenboy-fEARful #53 "Bruce Banner" | 
02-11-2013, 07:13 PM
| | | | Hughes & kettner basskick 515 i can get secondhand for 275euro.
Will that work? | 
03-15-2013, 07:06 PM
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