Ampeg 610, 810, or...?

[BassManMike73]

So, i've recently bought a ton of new gear for my rack, right now it's this:

Monster Power Pro 2500
Line 6 Bass POD XT Pro
SansAmp RBI
BBE Sonic Maximizer
DBX Compressor/Gate
Korg DTR-1000 Tuner
2 Space shelf holding my Markbass Little Mark Tube 800, and Shure PGDX Digital Wireless
1 Space Gator Drawer

I'm playing through a GK 410 and 210, and I'm looking to get a nicer cab. I really love the sound of the MB, especially with the other pieces in the chain, but it's still got a bit of a "too clean" sound. Paired it with an Ampeg 810 the other day in GC, and got compliments from everyone in the store about how awesome my rig sounded. So I'm really liking the 810, but also really interested in a 610 because of the added horn. So what do you guys think? Get one of the Ampegs? or what would you recommend for a different setup?

I play a lot of Pop Punk stuff, like Blink 182, Sum 41, and other music with that sort of sound. I play both straight forward rock lines, as well as chords and a lot of playing the upper strings.

[waleross]

Step up and get the 810. I had both the 610 and the 810. The 610 will make you want the 810. I also had (2) 410hlf's but the 810 is the reason why Ampeg is tops.

[BassManMike73]

well, they're the same price, and I'm really looking at the Heritage 810 (love that black/silver grill cloth!) And i like that the 610 would fit in my car, is lighter, and has the horn. But how big of a difference is there with the horn?

[bluesdogblues]

810, you won't regret

[cheezewiz]

If you are really looking for good sound, throw that sonic maximizer in the garbage. All it does is rob your mids. It's one of those things that sounds great soloed, but makes you absolutely disappear in a band mix. Both the 610 and 810 are good cabs, but they sound different. The 810 is the ampeg classic....the sealed, punchy, hit you in the gut classic. The 610 has bigger lows, not as punchy and more of a high end. You can't really lose with either.

[Jbyjnkx57]

The 6x10 is ported in addition to having the horn so as the previous post said the lows are much deeper and the sub low is much more prominent. If you are more of a concussive mid range sound person? You literally can't beat the 8x10 (with a tube head on top? Even better) if you are a 5 string player that loves his B string and being bathed in anything below 120? The 6x10 will be a monster for that. A 4x10 with a 15 is always a good option too for a good balance. I prefer 2 4x10s personally. There really isn't a sonic difference between the 8x10 and 2 4x10s and if you only.need one cab then you're good! Plus you can usually get them in a vehicle by yourself easily. Hope I helped good luck with your cabs!

[JimmyM]

I like both, but I don't like tweeters so much, so the Heritage 810e is the one I'd get. The grillcloth is very sweet, and the speakers are upgraded from the regular 810e. But if you like tweeters, then get the 610hlf. Neither will make you hurt for volume.

[Syco_bass]

+ 1 for diversity.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by Jbyjnkx57

The 6x10 is ported in addition to having the horn so as the previous post said the lows are much deeper and the sub low is much more prominent. If you are more of a concussive mid range sound person? You literally can't beat the 8x10 (with a tube head on top? Even better) if you are a 5 string player that loves his B string and being bathed in anything below 120? The 6x10 will be a monster for that. A 4x10 with a 15 is always a good option too for a good balance. I prefer 2 4x10s personally. There really isn't a sonic difference between the 8x10 and 2 4x10s and if you only.need one cab then you're good! Plus you can usually get them in a vehicle by yourself easily. Hope I helped good luck with your cabs!

Some accurate info, some not so much...the 410 + 115 is not very good for sonic balance...people only think it is because of looks. That's why you prefer two 410's...because it's actually a lot more balanced than mixing cabs. And two 410's will sound the same if they're built the same. The 410HE is built pretty similar to the 810e, except the tweeter, and they do sound very similar. But the 410HLF goes way lower than the 810e or 410HE.

[kosmicwizard]

Jimmy, be brave. Take your SVT plug one input jack into your 2 1X15's daisy chained that are sitting on top of your 810 on it's side, tell us how does that sound? Do the 15's get drowned out by the 10's? Can you really hear phasing? To me it is the voice of the Gods ... But everyone hears things a little differently. BTW, the 15 on the bottom of the 410 and 115 stack is the wrong way to do it, IMHO. Cheers.

[BassManMike73]

Haha, thanks for the input guys, I'm more than likely gonna order the Heritage 810. And as for the sonic maximizer, hile i agree that i did lose some mids when i added it to the chain, it really helped the over all sound, and a little eq-ing took care of the mid scoop.

[klejst]

I would say so 8x10 also, cannot go wrong. I have heard mixed feelings about the Ampeg 6x10.

[bassgod76]

Good luck transporting that monster.

[prd004]

+1 on losing the Sonic Maximizer, why put a piece of gear in your chain that scoops out the mids and then have to counter it by EQing more mids? It's like paying a huge sum of money to have a tatoo lazer removed and then paying to have the exact same tatoo.

I vote for the 610, best cab I owned and MUCH easier to move around than the 810

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by kosmicwizard

Jimmy, be brave. Take your SVT plug one input jack into your 2 1X15's daisy chained that are sitting on top of your 810 on it's side, tell us how does that sound? Do the 15's get drowned out by the 10's? Can you really hear phasing? To me it is the voice of the Gods ... But everyone hears things a little differently. BTW, the 15 on the bottom of the 410 and 115 stack is the wrong way to do it, IMHO. Cheers.

LOL! Putting my 810 on its side ain't gonna happen I've had to do it twice in the last year because of stage space considerations, and it sucked hard.

And yes, I can absolutely hear phasing when using a mixed rig. Some rigs do it less than others, but I always hear a least a small degree of phasing. Maybe one day this week I'll do it for a laugh, but I've already got my mind made up about mixing cab sizes. Even before I knew about the phasing, I never liked it.

[DeathFromBelow]

810.

[NKBassman]

If you are able to move an 810 and play venues large enough to justify it, then I'd say go for it. The 610 is a little more portable, but the 810 truely is king.

If my car was bigger, I'd have one.

[BassManMike73]

haha, loving all the input! And the sonic maximizer added a lot of... well... depth i guess, it's an odd sort of change between with it and without it, not easy for me to explain, but its definitely better. Maybe it wouldn't be beneficial in all rigs, but with my setup, i love what it adds.

[f'nar f'nar]

I had the same choice last year. I went for the 610 personally. I went into the shop fully expecting the 810 to sound better but not fit in my car, making it impractical. To my surprise the 610 sounded much much nicer than the 810 IMO, it's neater, punchy and the lows are loud, full and warm (AND it fit in my wagon PERFECTLY).

But most of the best advice has already been mentioned above. It really all depends not only on your own ears but also on the style of music you play. I personally play a mixture of rock/folk/funk with a lot of effects, slapping and tapping and the 610 literally sings. It's not too big for smaller venues and it's not too small for large venues.

Although I will say this: there IS a reason why 9 times out of 10 when you go see pop-punk/rock bands they'll have the 810 standing behind them...

[BassManMike73]

Yeah, i know of one band in my preferred genre, and their bassist (good friend actually :) plays a 610, but otherwise it seems that EVERYONE has the 810.