ampeg 810e - i want to upgrade my speakers!

[isaacwriston]

Help!

I have an Ampeg 810E. I am not like most bass players. I spent more time getting to know my instrument rather than learning the ins and outs.

Anyway, can you fine folks give me some suggestions on some killer speakers to put in my Ampeg. I'm sure there are a million different options but ideas would be awesome.

If mentioning the ins and outs would help me, then please tell me more about what I have. That's pretty much why I joined this site. I need to be a more informed bassist.

Go into detail if you have the time.

Thanks friends!

[mophead]

Get six 10's surrounded by a Bergantino cabinet. You will never look back.

[isaacwriston]

Yeah my friend. I've heard about those. I forgot to mention that three of mine are blown. the bottom three. So yeah, why not replace them all!?

[woody357]

I'd try and sell it, because IMHO you are going to spend more money changing all the speakers than you would just buying a cabinet that you really like.

[JimmyM]

i don't know...eminence just came out with a speaker this year called the legend b810 that has gotten rave reviews and is made specifically for 810e's. however, if it's one of those cabs made out of osb, i would think twice about spending money on it.

[isaacwriston]

Right on woody.

Well I really want to keep this cab. I've always dreamed of having an 810 and this is an investment I'm willing to make!

Thanks again woody

[woody357]

Well Ike if you are going to do it, look on the Eminence web site, and see what they offer. Eminence are the speakers that a lot of manufactures are use today.

[isaacwriston]

as far as wood goes, unless i rip some tolex off, how will i know if it's made of ply? on the back plate of the cab it clearly states its made in the us. let me do some research to see when the production date of the cab was. thanks for bringing that to my attention!

[isaacwriston]

ok i figured out the production year. it was 2004. am i in good shape?

[JimmyM]

um...well hey, if you like the cab, that's all that matters.

[Jim Campbell]

Originally Posted by isaacwriston

Help!

I have an Ampeg 810E. I am not like most bass players. I spent more time getting to know my instrument rather than learning the ins and outs.

Anyway, can you fine folks give me some suggestions on some killer speakers to put in my Ampeg. I'm sure there are a million different options but ideas would be awesome.

If mentioning the ins and outs would help me, then please tell me more about what I have. That's pretty much why I joined this site. I need to be a more informed bassist.

Go into detail if you have the time.

Thanks friends!

some favor the use of old style marslands,iirc that are close to the cts of the older cabs,tho they handle less power.....johnk10 has something like that in one of his and there is a thread out there somewhere.....sort of a tone for power handling trade off if i read it right

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

i don't know...eminence just came out with a speaker this year called the legend b810 that has gotten rave reviews and is made specifically for 810e's.

For all intents and purposes it's the same as the OEM Ampeg driver.
Sealed cabs have very specific driver requirements, and the vast majority of drivers made today don't meet them. All things considered I'd leave the cab as is.

[jastacey]

I have an Ampeg SVT 810 OSB Cabinet and I have done the Jensen Mod speaker replacement, in half of the speakers, I first started with 2 speakers and later on did another 2 speakers, ... I did this before Eminence released Legend B810, all I can say is it really improved the sound of the cabinet and I like how it sounds

Here's a link to the thread that has inspired a lot of people to do this speaker Mod : SVT-810E speaker experiment

[Bmorefoozler]

Bill, three drivers are blown, as per one of his earliest posts.

OP, look for a post by Johnk10, where he trades in a couple of Jensen Mod 10's.

[weary hobo]

Originally Posted by isaacwriston

I forgot to mention that three of mine are blown. the bottom three. So yeah, why not replace them all!?

Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

For all intents and purposes it's the same as the OEM Ampeg driver.
Sealed cabs have very specific driver requirements, and the vast majority of drivers made today don't meet them. All things considered I'd leave the cab as is.

I have an 2005 810e that was damaged in the flood that hit Nashville back in May. The cab and the bottom two drivers are wrecked, but the top six drivers are prefectly fine.

So if the OP wants three OEM Ampeg drivers, he can PM me--we can probably work something out.

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by Bmorefoozler

Bill, three drivers are blown, as per one of his earliest posts.

Then I'd replace them with B810s. I'd personally avoid the Jensens unless he's content to trade away low end output capability; the Jensens are guitar drivers that will only take 20 watts before reaching their excursion limit. That may be adequate for his needs, but it's an expensive proposition finding out that they aren't.

[Bmorefoozler]

Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

Then I'd replace them with B810s. I'd personally avoid the Jensens unless he's content to trade away low end output capability; the Jensens are guitar drivers that will only take 20 watts before reaching their excursion limit. That may be adequate for his needs, but it's an expensive proposition finding out that they aren't.

I was jsut passing along that there is a "cheapish" option that has gotten praise from people on this site.

The post above yours is a very good sollution. They should get together and figure that one out. Turn two junk cabs into one good one.

[JimmyM]

the jensen mods were considered at a time when eminence wasn't making a good 32 ohm 810e replacement speaker. i think they did make one but it was outrageously expensive. now that they make the b810, no way i'd even consider the mods.

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

the jensen mods were considered at a time when eminence wasn't making a good 32 ohm 810e replacement speaker. i think they did make one but it was outrageously expensive. now that they make the b810, no way i'd even consider the mods.

Playing Devil's Advocate, the Mods are the driver of choice if you want to get as close as possible to the original CTS drivers. Whether you do or not is another question entirely. Their lack of excursion is why the '69 original was marketed with two cabs to handle one head.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

Playing Devil's Advocate, the Mods are the driver of choice if you want to get as close as possible to the original CTS drivers. Whether you do or not is another question entirely. Their lack of excursion is why the '69 original was marketed with two cabs to handle one head.

can't argue with that, although not having any experience with either, i can't say for sure how they match up to my beloved cts's. however, looking at the spec sheets and freq graphs for both the mod and b810:

http://jensentone.com/mod10-50.php

http://www.eminence.com/pdf/legend-b810.pdf

i don't see that they're worlds apart. seems to be a stronger low mid with the b810's and slightly less of a dip at 500 than the mods, and maybe a more gradual rolloff past 5k with the mods. so i'm thinking that what you gain in power handling may be worth the slight tradeoff.

still, i always defer to you in situations like this because it's way more likely you have hands on experience and can interpret data better. but if it were me and in a situation where i couldn't try before i buy, i'm 95% sure i'd go with the b810's. a slight difference from my original position that there's no way i'd go with the mods, but i'm still pretty convinced that the b810's are what i'd get, especially if i was replacing a couple drivers in a recent 810e.