Ampeg just dropped a bomb on Facebook...

[JimmyM]

You just did. But is it really that bad of an amp? I've never played one, but how far afield could they have gone with it?

[Son of Bovril]

I've only played the V-4BH not the original V-4B so I couldn't give an opinion on the difference but there seem to be quite a few people arguing that the difference is quite big?

I quite enjoyed the V-4BH though so I wouldn't say it is a bad sounding head at all, although I did find it quite soft for it's 100watt rating, which was not nearly loud enogh for my needs...

I think most people who are looking for a 100watt tube head are either playing really low volume shows or are looking to saturate the amp for that grindy tone without being ungodly loud, I was doing neither, so I'm probably the wrong target market for the amp entirely

[coreyfyfe]

They were just very differently voiced amps. The vintage was more aggressive all around. They could still do clean, but when distorted it was really grindy and mid-focused IMO vs the modern amps which were a bit more polite, for lack of a better word.

[Klonk]

Originally Posted by ampegfuzz

Is someone trying to sell john's stuff without him knowing again??

Hehe, this was my first thought when I saw the pic on FB

Will be interesting for sure! I am happy with my SVT-VR, which I bought after discussing it on TB (here: Ampeg SVT vs V4BH ). Main thing for me was that the V4BH was about the same size as the SVT-VR head, and I figured I might as well get the extra headroom. Plus I got a really nice deal on the SVT-VR + 810 AV cab through a friend

[johnpbass]

No V4B? Oh well. There goes my shiny and new V4B. Guess if I want one I'll have to look for a vintage V4B with worn off graphics, and rips in the tolex and front cover.

[JMac4strngr]

Oh well....
As bad as I hate it, I guess I'll just have to keep using My old one. However, it would be super cool to have a nice shiny "new" one.

As a word of encouragement for the Guys who are curious about picking up vintage V-4/V-4B units. They were (according to My amp tech), way overbuilt/designed and are some of the most "numbskull" proof amps ever built. So don't sweat the fact that they aren't new. Properly serviced they'll probably outlast most other amps.

[beans-on-toast]

Whatever Loud decides to do, I hope that they think things through and come up with a classic 100W tube amp that will stand the test of time. Don't skimp on tone and quality. I have no doubt that the bass community will embrace the right amp wholeheartedly. In my eyes and heart, it would be an original V4B with heavy iron and a 215 cabinet.

[blendermassacre]

Originally Posted by Jim Carr

??? What does this mean ???

someone asked who was going to build it. I said: "Asians"

[johnpbass]

Originally Posted by JMac4strngr

Oh well....
As bad as I hate it, I guess I'll just have to keep using My old one. However, it would be super cool to have a nice shiny "new" one.

As a word of encouragement for the Guys who are curious about picking up vintage V-4/V-4B units. They were (according to My amp tech), way overbuilt/designed and are some of the most "numbskull" proof amps ever built. So don't sweat the fact that they aren't new. Properly serviced they'll probably outlast most other amps.

That's very good info JMac4strngr. I loved my old V4B and have always thought about picking one up again.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by blendermassacre

someone asked who was going to build it. I said: "Asians"

Yeah, could you say it once more? We didn't get the joke the first and second time

[fenderhutz]

If they built a reasonably priced 50 to 100 watt "lunchbox" tube amp it would sell well I think.

Make it mount to the newer PF cabs and it would be golden.

HINT HINT lol

[bassguy72]

Originally Posted by fenderhutz

If they built a reasonably priced 50 to 100 watt "lunchbox" tube amp it would sell well I think.

Make it mount to the newer PF cabs and it would be golden.

HINT HINT lol

+1

[eyeballkid]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

You just did. But is it really that bad of an amp? I've never played one, but how far afield could they have gone with it?

the v4bh is not a "bad" amp at all, its just that its entirely different from the v4b. the "reissue" has a beautiful tone, but half the balls of the original. it makes an excellent recording amp, or intimate setting gig amp, but could never hang in loud rock like the original. plus the tone and heft of the original is similar to the gorgeous detailed sound of an original svt and the reissue just doesnt come close. its a sweet little amp, but no v4b by miles.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by eyeballkid

the v4bh is not a "bad" amp at all, its just that its entirely different from the v4b. the "reissue" has a beautiful tone, but half the balls of the original.

You can stop there...I get it now

Yes, extra balls is a definite requirement.

[blendermassacre]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

Yeah, could you say it once more? We didn't get the joke the first and second time

Whoops. Posted twice from my phone

[blendermassacre]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

Yeah, could you say it once more? We didn't get the joke the first and second time

Oh, someone asked what it was in reference to the first time. Personally, I don't mind at all. I'm not the that guy. I wish the global economy allowed more companies to profit with an American labor force, but it's not viable, really, these days. That's a discussion for another thread and has been beaten to death

[sedan_dad]

So what I'm reading is "I'd love Ampeg to make a V4B as long as it wasn't a V4B". Huh?

[blendermassacre]

Originally Posted by sedan_dad

So what I'm reading is "I'd love Ampeg to make a V4B as long as it wasn't a V4B". Huh?

V4B does not equal V4BH

[coreyfyfe]

Originally Posted by blendermassacre

V4B does not equal V4BH

Right. People want a real reissue of this:



Rather than this:

[RootNoteRadical]

Man, I don't get it, I LOVE my V4BH..... And of course my SVT.