Ampeg Micro VR - Rev. A00 tolex issue?

Televator · #1 10-11-2011, 04:22 PM

I've heard that the Rev. A00 run of Ampeg Micro VR amp heads had tolex-peeling issues. Is this true? I recently ordered a Micro VR and matching cab from Guitar Center, and found that they sent me a Rev. A00 head with a Rev. B00 cab. When I called Ampeg to inquire about the Rev. A00 tolex issue, the guy I spoke with VEHEMENTLY denied that the issue existed. Am I getting the run-around, or what?

Musicman20 · #2 10-11-2011, 04:35 PM

It prob won't like a second cab running with it.

Televator · #3 10-11-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Musicman20

It prob won't like a second cab running with it.

From what I understand, neither will the Rev. B00. I'm mainly concerned with the Rev. A00 tolex issue. I don't want to have to return it, but I will if there's a problem with these.

Televator · #4 10-12-2011, 01:41 PM

Anyone else have any info.?

JimmyM · #5 10-12-2011, 02:49 PM

I'd say if it's not coming off by now, you're OK. But if it does, it's under warranty.

moishelichtfuss · #6 10-12-2011, 03:00 PM

On mine there was a slight peeling-effect on the bottom, which I fixed with some glue. No problems since. It's not of the sturdiest material on the whole though. The one time I took it to a gig it returned with loads of scratches (and it was a very civilized venue).

But all of that's really secondary. I still like the little guy a lot.

Televator · #7 10-12-2011, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

I'd say if it's not coming off by now, you're OK. But if it does, it's under warranty.

...but I just got it yesterday. Do you mean because it must have been manufactured sometime ago?

Televator · #8 10-12-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by moishelichtfuss

On mine there was a slight peeling-effect on the bottom, which I fixed with some glue. No problems since. It's not of the sturdiest material on the whole though. The one time I took it to a gig it returned with loads of scratches (and it was a very civilized venue).

But all of that's really secondary. I still like the little guy a lot.

Do you know if the peeling was common to ALL of the rev. A00's, or just some?

BulbousMoses · #9 10-12-2011, 04:25 PM

I'm in the same boat .. rev A00 head and rev B00 cab. No issues with the tolex on either after 6 months...

JimmyM · #10 10-12-2011, 04:27 PM

Actually, looking at the revision number on mine which I got new last Christmas, it's also A00, and the Micro VR had been out for a year and a half by then, so it's a newer head.

BassScum · #11 10-12-2011, 04:29 PM

I have the 210AV cabinet. It's about 2 years old and yes the tolex did peel. Quite a bit. I reglued it.

Televator · #12 10-12-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BassScum

I have the 210AV cabinet. It's about 2 years old and yes the tolex did peel. Quite a bit. I reglued it.

Hmm.... could it have just been the cabs, and not the heads?

Televator · #13 10-12-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BulbousMoses

I'm in the same boat .. rev A00 head and rev B00 cab. No issues with the tolex on either after 6 months...

That's reassuring to hear.

Timmah · #14 10-12-2011, 05:08 PM

Standard duct tape is the same color as the tolex. You can't tell the difference.

Televator · #15 10-13-2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmah

Standard duct tape is the same color as the tolex. You can't tell the difference.

This, on the other hand, is NOT reassuring.

fenderhutz · #16 10-13-2011, 06:45 AM

Ampeg lied to you. Plain and simple. Whether or not the guy was new and didn't know could be another issue. THE REASON THEY WENT FROM A00 TO B00 was ONLY because they used a water based glue on the A00 stuff instead of the oil based they were supposed to use.

I had a very detailed issue with Ampeg a few months back and had some very long conversations with a very helpful and "in the know" guy.

Jimmy is right though, if it peels you are under warranty. But YES, the A00 gear is bad glue, B00 good glue and that was the MAJOR (if only) reason for the revision change.

Televator · #17 10-13-2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fenderhutz

Ampeg lied to you. Plain and simple. Whether or not the guy was new and didn't know could be another issue. THE REASON THEY WENT FROM A00 TO B00 was ONLY because they used a water based glue on the A00 stuff instead of the oil based they were supposed to use.

I had a very detailed issue with Ampeg a few months back and had some very long conversations with a very helpful and "in the know" guy.

Jimmy is right though, if it peels you are under warranty. But YES, the A00 gear is bad glue, B00 good glue and that was the MAJOR (if only) reason for the revision change.

Thanks for this. That seals it--the A00 is going back to Guitar Center.

JimmyM · #18 10-13-2011, 09:00 AM

Only the cab has a new revision number, though, not the head. You're panicking over nothing.

BulbousMoses · #19 10-13-2011, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by fenderhutz

Ampeg lied to you. Plain and simple. Whether or not the guy was new and didn't know could be another issue. THE REASON THEY WENT FROM A00 TO B00 was ONLY because they used a water based glue on the A00 stuff instead of the oil based they were supposed to use.

I had a very detailed issue with Ampeg a few months back and had some very long conversations with a very helpful and "in the know" guy.

Jimmy is right though, if it peels you are under warranty. But YES, the A00 gear is bad glue, B00 good glue and that was the MAJOR (if only) reason for the revision change.

'Hutz..from your conversations with Ampeg, would you say the A00 pieces are guaranteed to peel or is it an intermittant problem? I live in an area that has swings in humidity from season to season and I wonder if that will accelerate any problem. So far, everything has been fine.

fenderhutz · #20 10-13-2011, 09:03 AM

Let me rephrase that. Loud Inc tech support for Ampeg was not knowledgable or misrepresented the truth. Either way it's bad info.