Ampeg PF-210 or PF-115

Slackerprince · #1 09-26-2011, 09:12 PM

I'm looking for a cab for my SVT 7 Pro. I was able to play the PF-210 extensively at GC today and liked it alot. They had a 7 Pro there, so it helped to use the same head that I own.
I've tried to filter through the thousands of posts in the PF mega-thread, but I'm looking for a direct comparison between the 210 and 115 for anyone who has played or owns them both.
I do know the 7 Pro has 1K watts, and don't plan on trying to goose all that through either cab. Just looking for tone comparisons between the two cabs.
Pretty much ready to pull the trigger on one of them.
Thanks for any posts and sorry for any repetition on the subject.

S

rodl2005 · #2 09-26-2011, 11:56 PM

I've got a 7 PRO & use it into mostly Bergantino NEO AE cabs. But I, too wouldlike to know how she goes with these PF cabs!
So, as a bump..........

Jheake · #3 09-27-2011, 02:43 AM

Thats alot of power for those cabs imo. I think they handle 400 watts. Correct me if im wrong but doesnt the svt7pro push 600 watts at 8 ohms?

i would think you would want to push maybe a 410HLF with that head. Or maybe one of the neo setups?

not that the svt7pro with the pf cabs would sound bad, but i dont think you would get to far with them. thats alot of power for those. I have the pf500 and it pushes them pretty much to their limit.

but as always YMMV

i reread your post, i guess i missed what you were saying. I liked the 210 better. But i like 10s better in general. i think they will also handle the power a little better too. not a lot better but a bit.

rodl2005 · #4 09-27-2011, 02:49 AM

NO Definately I WOULD NOT want a 410HLF !!!!
I REALLY didn't like that cab(had one for nearly a year)- WAY too much lows & very little definition.
No, I Want 2 8 ohm cabs.
The 7 PRO HAS a volume control & so I wouldn't give either cab (if using just the one 8 ohm 450w RMS rated cab) anywhere NEAR the 600w the amp might put out at 8 ohms.
& combining the cabs (thus a 4 ohm load the cabs either of them or one of each) would handle 900w (approx) so, seems like a pretty good match!!!!! :-)

I'd like to hear from anyone who's used 'em together tho, I mean I CAN imagine & I CAN try out the PF cabs with a PF500(in store) - so that's getting real close.
I might try that this weekend if I get time.

Jheake · #5 09-27-2011, 04:00 AM

I have them. The pf500 with the pf210. and ive played through 2 stacked.
like i said, i wouldnt recommend blasting the 7pro through them. you wont have any headroom. The 115s offer even less headroom without farting out. These are sealed cabs. Also they wont handle a combined total of 900 watts, they handle 450 each, and thats peak. your splitting your power through each cab. So if the amp pushes 1k your giving 500 to each cab. It seems like a nice fit, but its more then they can handle.

I dont particularly care for the 410HLF myself. i was just throwing out ideas.
If it were me, i would pair it with a couple BXT410's that they no longer make. Those cabs rip. i used to run them with an SVT4pro. that was some bad ass tone. it was heavy to lug around tho.

rodl2005 · #6 09-27-2011, 04:18 AM

Thanx for the reply. All info & views help!
I thought they were 450w RMS I know that doesn't mean they'll handle 450w but I thought running the 7 pro would be fine as long as I don't max the volume.
Might just stick to my Berg AE212 & 410 then. I just dig the LOOK of the PF cabs

Oh & I do like sealed cabs too , but.......

Slackerprince · #7 09-27-2011, 04:40 AM

A lot of people go right to the 1000 watts when they discuss the 7 Pro.
I bought mine for the preamp tube and layout of the control panel, as well as overall tone. I would have been happy with it with less watts.
The wattage was way down the list on features for me.
I'm looking at the PF cabs for overall performance/price. I'm going to use the new 15% MF discount, so one will only be $330.
I was able to try a 410 HLF, but really like the size, weight, and price of the PF210. Looks good, too!
Thanks for the replies.

S

Jheake · #8 09-27-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rodl2005

Thanx for the reply. All info & views help!
I thought they were 450w RMS I know that doesn't mean they'll handle 450w but I thought running the 7 pro would be fine as long as I don't max the volume.
Might just stick to my Berg AE212 & 410 then. I just dig the LOOK of the PF cabs

Oh & I do like sealed cabs too , but.......

Well the issue you would have is that you wouldn't have any head room, or that while turning up the volume they would start to distort or fart out before you got your desired volume. (headroom within the cabinets not the amp)

It could mean that you dont need to turn the amp up as much to get the volume needed, I have never run into that with more power though. It always seems the other way around. An amp rated with much more power then a cab seemed to always make the cab distort when turned up, im not sure why though.

I try to pair the power of amps to cabs for best results, because that's how they are designed.

ex: 500 watts split between two 450 watt rated cabs. gives you 250 watts to each cab. This gives you much more headroom with the cabinets, because your not pushing them to their max running the volume up and pushing the power.

i could be totally wrong though, but this has been my personal experience with bass amps. Hell i even used to try Bi-amping with a 410 and 115. I really disliked that sound.
anyway good luck.
Im sure someone has numbers on power ratings and what not to help us fully understand exactly why this does or does not work.

I do know that more speakers will give you more volume way sooner then more wattage. People get locked into a "NEED MORE POWAH TO GET LOUDA" kind of thing. Which is untrue, i mean yes you need more power but more speakers will get you there faster.

also I love the look of the new PF line. that was a big part of the reason i picked them up.