Ampeg SVT-410HE vs SVT-410HLF - Page 3

iamdenialNJ · #41 05-02-2010, 10:20 PM

I think I'm going to shoot for two 410he's like you. I'm guessing there's not much of a difference between two 410he's and a 810e...

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Originally Posted by voodoobassist

For old, loud, deaf guitards that refuse to turn down,...try 2 4X10HE's with an Aguilar 4x10 all run by a Mesa 400+. I think you'll find the highs AND lows sufficient with that 2ohm load.

origami · #42 05-03-2010, 04:32 PM

I owned a 410he for about 6 months and usually hated it. always farted out with the 5'er. probably the ampeg cab i like the least.

i've owned a 410hlf for a few weeks which has tons of low end, and seems to take my octave down effects pretty well.

paulygonemad · #43 05-03-2010, 04:38 PM

I have been thinking for a while that it would be great to pair those two cabs. Split frequencies, send low to HLF and hi to HE.
I bet that would work great.

I have the HLF, love it. Will never part with it. Tons of low end.

iamdenialNJ · #44 05-03-2010, 04:55 PM

Can the 410he be stacked on the 410hlf without having to fear that the 410he will fall down?

origami · #45 05-03-2010, 04:56 PM

i've thought about picking up the svt210he cab used and running it out the 8ohm hi power amp of my 800rb.

the 210he is not the greatest cab and really doesn't like lows, so I could cross over the lows out of it.

the only thing is that my 800rb head is already running kind of hot now that it is using 4 ohms to power my HLF. Adding that other cab, may be too much.

babebambi · #46 05-03-2010, 05:48 PM

won't work well, the hi-range of a GK head is for tweeter only.

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Originally Posted by origami

i've thought about picking up the svt210he cab used and running it out the 8ohm hi power amp of my 800rb.

the 210he is not the greatest cab and really doesn't like lows, so I could cross over the lows out of it.

the only thing is that my 800rb head is already running kind of hot now that it is using 4 ohms to power my HLF. Adding that other cab, may be too much.

babebambi · #47 05-03-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by iamdenialNJ

Can the 410he be stacked on the 410hlf without having to fear that the 410he will fall down?

I think so, the HLF is deeper than the HE, in dimension

origami · #48 05-04-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by babebambi

won't work well, the hi-range of a GK head is for tweeter only.

The cross over point is sweepable on the 800rb, but the high amp output is only 100watts

guermo · #49 09-30-2010, 11:33 AM

So I've got a new 410 HE and find it a bit lacking on the low end as others have said - I played out of a 410hlf b series for years. I have a SWR 750x head and was thinking about running it at 2.6 ohms to power both of these cabs. Any opinions on that?

410HE 8Ohms
410 HLF B 4Ohms
SWR 750x

RickenBoogie · #50 09-30-2010, 05:30 PM

Running a 4 ohm 410 with an 8 ohm 410 is not a good idea. For starters, the 4 ohm cab will eat 2/3 of the power, leaving the 8 ohm cab with the lonely 1/3. Imbalance, big time. It would be a waste of time, imo.

jeffgnr90 · #51 01-05-2013, 10:50 PM

what if I was to stack 2 410hlfs? what then?!?!?!?!?!!??! But seriously. Would that be overkill??

SR505bassman · #52 01-05-2013, 11:48 PM

I have an svt 410 he that I really like for smaller venues, but I really love the full sound I get when I pair it with an Acoustic B115. The 15 gives it the lacking low end, and the combo really does the job with my Ampeg PF500. Just my 2 cents...

WCHIII · #53 01-06-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fenderhutz

I just traded the HE off today. A major differance is that is an 8ohm cab. The HLF is 4ohms. The HLF is meant to be a true standalone cab while the SVT HE is best paired with something else.

The HLF 6x10 and HLF 4x10 IMO are the best two cabs Ampeg makes that can still fit in the back of a SUV but I wouldn't buy them with the intention of running more than one unless you have dedicated seperate power sources. The 410 HLF will take every bit of 600 watts and if you don't push it enough to move air it will sound thin.

The 610 hlf sounds enormous with my 450 watt
Svt 3pro... Not thin a bit

JimmyM · #54 01-06-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffgnr90

what if I was to stack 2 410hlfs? what then?!?!?!?!?!!??! But seriously. Would that be overkill??

Might be a little hard to deadlift but if your head does 2 ohms, it's cool.

jd_watt · #55 06-10-2013, 10:00 AM

Is there a post floating around that considers SVT-410HLF vs. SVT-410HE + SVT-15E?

I'd love to know how these two combinations compare, as I've been totally frustrated with my hlf410.

**CL400Peavey** · #56 06-10-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jd_watt

Is there a post floating around that considers SVT-410HLF vs. SVT-410HE + SVT-15E?

I'd love to know how these two combinations compare, as I've been totally frustrated with my hlf410.

The 410HE+15E combo is going to have similar output to the 410HLF as the 15e will limit the power handling of the 410HE. Further more I wouldnt expect the 15e to have more lows than the 410HE. Two 410HE's on the other hand will have similar response to the 810E, if you have the horns off. IMHO combining the 115E with the 410HE is a fail, as is mixing any two different cabs.

Really all depends on subjective tone requirements, and how loud you need to be.

jd_watt · #57 06-10-2013, 10:15 AM

Thanks for the reply! I've just had all kinds of issue with my p-bass > pf-500 > hlf410 setup. It's all good gear, so maybe it's my cab placement, eqing, etc.

I just can't get a very satisfying sound in a band setup. Sounds great at home. I get it to a gig or rehearsal, and everything sounds muddy or boxy, or a combination of the two. I'm thinking it has the cab, yet it sounds great on its own...

**CL400Peavey** · #58 06-10-2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jd_watt

Thanks for the reply! I've just had all kinds of issue with my p-bass > pf-500 > hlf410 setup. It's all good gear, so maybe it's my cab placement, eqing, etc.

I just can't get a very satisfying sound in a band setup. Sounds great at home. I get it to a gig or rehearsal, and everything sounds muddy or boxy, or a combination of the two. I'm thinking it has the cab, yet it sounds great on its own...

How are you EQ'ing?

jd_watt · #59 06-10-2013, 10:28 AM

I've tried a few different things...

Generally everything at noon, maybe a little bass around 1 o'clock. Maybe a dip in the highs (11 0'clock). I've been everywhere with the mids. I also have a geb-7 (graphic eq) that I tried to put out front. No help. again, sounds great at bedroom levels, then everything falls apart at rehearsal. Maybe I'm too close to the amp, or could it be that an entirely different eq curve needs to be put in place at a different volume?

**CL400Peavey** · #60 06-10-2013, 10:45 AM

Cut the lows, boost the low mids, and have all your ultra switches "out". Lows at 8-9 o'clock, mids selector at second from the left, mid knob at 3-4 o'clock, highs at noon or more.