Ampeg SVT 610HLF vs Bergantino NV610??? Which one would you take??

[novo]

Pretty simple actually.....

610HLF VS NV610.

I don't have a lot of knowledge when it comes to sealed cabs etc but I'm in a position of choice...can you help out?>??

Regards!

[hover]

The 610hlf is not sealed. BUT, it has more letters...

[Jefe]

Prepare to be overwhelmed by NV610 recommendations. I can only imagine that anyone who would prefer the Ampeg over the Berg simply has not played through the NV610.

[Djeetn]

I would say go for the Ampeg SVT 610 HLF cabinet. Great sound, extreme durable and very easy for transportation. I have this cab since 2005 and it has never let me down. My cab was made in the USA but I believe Ampeg now produces in Vietnam so there may be some difference on a few points of specifications but I'm not 100% certain. Anyway, the Ampeg is in my opinion an excellent choice.

[Djeetn]

Originally Posted by Jefe

Prepare to be overwhelmed by NV610 recommendations. I can only imagine that anyone who would prefer the Ampeg over the Berg simply has not played through the NV610.

Actually, I have played through this cabinet during a gig with my Ampeg head connection into it, really good sound and excellent cabinet but I prefer the Ampeg more (personal taste).

[anderbass]

Get the NV610.

[jastacey]

The Ampeg 610 is a ported cabinet, that is somewhat dark, and at times boomy sounding, if you like the traditional Ampeg sound ( think 810's ), then get the Berg 610, it does it in spades and then some, it holds it's value in the resale market

[majortoby]

I say the Berg. Although I have never heard one, I have read vast numbers of reviews for them. What I've gathered is that it's essentially a smaller, lighter, more sensitive and robust SVT810, only with even more tonal flexibility.

[NKBassman]

I'd take the Berg, even though I've never even seen one in real life. I've played an Ampeg 610 a few times and found it to be a great sounding cab (also nice to move around!), but these days I would prefer a sealed cab without a tweeter.

[Buster Brown]

I own the Ampeg and play it regularly. I have played a Berg on one occasion and was "under-whelmed". Folks here look at the Berg like a religion. I do not. However, there is a little problem with your question.

The Ampeg is a ported cabinet and the Berg is a sealed cab. Their individual characteristics are going to reflect that. My main concern then would be price points.

New, the Ampeg will run you around a grand and the Berg will run you about 1,400 (or thereabouts).

Finally, the ultimate authority will have to be YOU and what you are looking for in a cabinet. They will both get the job done.

Good luck in your decision!!

[Tim1]

You don't say what head you are using. Definitely if it is a tube head I would recommend the Bergantino. I have played the Bergantino NV610 side by side with an Ampeg 810 (driven by an SVT2) and preferred the Berg FWIW. The sealed cab thing really seems to work with tube heads. That said, there are also many posters here who love the Berg with solid state. There has been a whole thread recently on the Bergantino, if you search and read it I am sure you will see what the general consensus is.

[christw]

Never owned a Berg but I've owned the Ampeg 610HLF and 810E and I'd vote Berg. Even the Ampeg lovers seem to be converted by those cabs!

[thisSNsucks]

Bergantino NV610. I own one and it's awesome.

[Fuzzbass]

Originally Posted by jastacey

if you like the traditional Ampeg sound ( think 810's ), then get the Berg 610, it does it in spades and then some, it holds it's value in the resale market

Yup. If you're looking for the classic SVT punch then get the Bergantino! The NV610 is smaller and lighter than the Ampeg 8x10 that it's modeled after, and is a better cab overall IMHO.

The Ampeg 610HLF is something else entirely. I'm sure it works for some folks, the NV610 has been my #1 gig cab for over seven years. I'll always kick myself for selling the one below (long story). It was one of just two made with red tolex (my current one is black tolex)

[grendle]

2 very different cabs. The 610hlf is not an 810e minus 2 speakers, its a different animal. It's a 410hlf +2 speakers. A LOT of bottom end on tap and a good cab but very different sounding than a sealed svt 8x10.

The Berg does the "ampeg classic sealed flatback cab tone in a smaller package" very well. It's a little more hi fi ish than the svt, which depending on what you want can be good or bad.

Personally I would go for the berg. I own a SVT 810 and am sold on the sealed cab tone. You just can't get that from anything else.

[B-string]

Berg.

[MingusBass]

NV610, no question in my mind. I have one and it's a great cab.

[RC52]

Nv610!!!

[acubass]

This thread is why Ampeg needs to make a sealed 610. Call it the 610HE, the middle brother to the 410HE.

[punkrockmike]

i have owned 2 ampeg 610's, an ampeg 810, and now a berg nv610. the ampeg 610 was pretty easy to move around with the side handles (both the 810 and 610 have the tilt back caster wheels and built in towel bar, but the 610 also has side handles) and weighs a little less than the 810. that aside, i didnt really like the sound of the ampeg 610. a) its ported, which i am generally not a fan of. b)didnt really like the tweeter. and with the insane amount of high end from all the od/distortion i use, i almost blew the tweeter multiple times. the ampeg 810 sounded way better than the ampeg 610. but after reading all the reviews on here and then finally getting to try a berg nv610, i was blown away. all the punch (if not more) of the 810, but with way more low end presence and waaaaaay easier to haul. weight is not really an issue to me when it comes down to it, but it was definitely a plus. as others have said, ultimately it all depends on what sounds good to you.