ampeg svt610 drivers

[Mybikeisblack]

Tonight at a gig this cab started to fart under use of the svt7pro. From my understanding this cab should be able to handle that 1000 watts pretty well.

Are there any drivers out there that I can use to beef up the wattage? Or are there other 610 cabs out there that rival the ampeg but carry a higher wattage?

I'm fuming right now because the gig was horrible.

[coreyfyfe]

The drivers are probably not the issue, it's probably how you're EQing. The cab uses 6 ohm drivers, and as far as I know the only ones available are the OEM ampeg driver, so that's no help. There are other 6x10 cabs, but I think the issue can be addressed with EQ before you go buying a new cab.

How are you EQing the amp? What kind of bass are you using? Active/passive? Tone settings on the bass? Style of music?

[Mybikeisblack]

Playing hardcore type music. Using a schecter c4 bass so it's passive with active electronics. As for EQing, slight compression, master was at around 2oclock, gain 10oclock bass 4-5 o'clock treble and mid around 7 o'clock.

I've never had this issue other than this time and I run the same settings all the time.

Also settings on bass are set to neutral.

[coreyfyfe]

Originally Posted by Mybikeisblack

master was at around 2oclock, gain 10oclock bass 4-5 o'clock treble and mid around 7 o'clock.

So if I'm reading this right, you had the bass fully boosted and the mids and treble fully cut?

[Mybikeisblack]

Not fully boosted. Bass is about three quarters of the way and treble and mid about a quarter of the way

[coreyfyfe]

Try backing off on the bass and adding in more mids. Mids are really where the bass is defined, using all that bass boost you're pretty much just wasting wattage. With higher mids you'll get audible definition to what you're playing. Add a little compression and you'll have higher perceived volume than just cranking the amp. The 610HLF can be a pretty bottom-heavy cab, I actually used to keep my bass around noon-1ish when I was using that cab to avoid getting boomy.

[B-string]

The venue could have had low line voltage or even a bad circuit? It may have not been your equipments fault at all.

[Mybikeisblack]

Originally Posted by B-string

The venue could have had low line voltage or even a bad circuit? It may have not been your equipments fault at all.

Possibly. I was running DI. They had issues with sound the whole set. Could that really have something to do with it? They had issues with the monitors. And our drummers bass pad had shorted from something they did.


And I do agree I could cut the bass a bit

[Mybikeisblack]

Through some research, everything I've read said the ampeg 610 has the eminence alpha 10s? This true. What about the. Horn? I may just change the drivers just because they're the originals

[B-string]

Originally Posted by Mybikeisblack

Possibly. I was running DI. They had issues with sound the whole set. Could that really have something to do with it? They had issues with the monitors. And our drummers bass pad had shorted from something they did.


And I do agree I could cut the bass a bit

Sounds very likely the venue had the trouble not your rig from what you just said.

[Mybikeisblack]

I hope so. I'm gonna test it tomorrow. I'm new to the DI so how could they have caused it? I was still using my normal settings for on stage volume.

[B-string]

Not necessarily the DI, although unregulated DC has caused trouble before. I'm thinking more trouble with the AC supply on stage.

[Mybikeisblack]

Quite possibly. I'm hoping that's the case.

[WhoDidTheElf]

Wow that is a lot of bass boost. I can see why your speakers were farting out. Try backing off on the bass a whole bunch, and seeing if that helps.

[JimmyM]

Yeah, the 610HLF has a lot of low end capabilities, but if you grossly boost it, you're not going to get as loud as you would with a more moderate tone because it takes more wattage to push lows than anything else. And 600w is where it starts to fart out, not 1000. It probably has a thermal rating of around 1000w, but 600w is the limit for clean tone.

[Mybikeisblack]

Hmm alright. Because the cab says it's program rating is 1200. I'll back off on the bass, but I think I'd rather find a cab that can handle it. I've played 4 gigs with this head on the same settings and have never had a problem before.

[WhoDidTheElf]

Originally Posted by Mybikeisblack

Hmm alright. Because the cab says it's program rating is 1200. I'll back off on the bass, but I think I'd rather find a cab that can handle it. I've played 4 gigs with this head on the same settings and have never had a problem before.

I believe it has a 1200 watt peak rating, meaning it can take peaks of 1200 watts, but I believe the RMS rating or the continuous rating is around 600 watts what it can take for extended periods of time.

I don't think you're going to find a cab to handle that. You'll more than likely need a much bigger rig with more power and more cabs to get that kind of bass response.

What kind of room are you playing in? That much bass must sound like just sheer mud to the audience.

[Mybikeisblack]

Surprisingly the crowd found my bass to be the only good part about tonight. I'm considering getting the svt810. But as of now the orange 810 looks like a winner.


Edit: I'm playing in 700+ people venues.

[WhoDidTheElf]

Honestly though, the much cheaper route would be EQ your amp with less bass, you'll get a bunch more volume and won't need to drop the cash on a new cab.

I'm not sure a 8x10 is going to fix the problem...

[Mybikeisblack]

I will EQ lower. But I'm looking for the reassurance that if I ever needed it, I have it without worry.