Ampeg V4 - 4x12 Cabinet - Speaker Suggestions

jastacey · #1 05-01-2010, 08:33 AM

I've aquired a empty Ampeg V4 - 4x12 speaker cabinet ... I plan on re-tolexing the cabinet and using it as a bass cabinet .... I'm open to suggestions as what would sound good in this cabinet ... what would you load this cabinet with ? ... my thoughts are the Eminence Deltalite II 2512 ( this is a 8 ohm speaker ) or the Jensen MOD 12-110 in a 16 ohm ( this way I can wire it to 4 ohms )

rllefebv · #2 05-01-2010, 09:58 AM

I asked johnk_10 this same very same question when I got mine back in October... He steered me towards the 2512's and I am ever so glad that I listened!

As a bass cabinet, it's one bad mammajamma

-robert

billfitzmaurice · #3 05-01-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jastacey

I've aquired a empty Ampeg V4 - 4x12 speaker cabinet ... I plan on re-tolexing the cabinet and using it as a bass cabinet .... I'm open to suggestions as what would sound good in this cabinet ... what would you load this cabinet with ? ... my thoughts are the Eminence Deltalite II 2512 ( this is a 8 ohm speaker ) or the Jensen MOD 12-110 in a 16 ohm ( this way I can wire it to 4 ohms )

MOD 12s are guitar spec'd and won't take more than 20 watts before farting out. That's obviously not a problem with a V4 head, but with anything more substantial it could be. OTOH if you are using a V4 head you certainly don't need four 2512s, two would be sufficient. In that small cab driven with 200 watts or less a pair of 2512s on one side of the cab, the other two holes sealed, will work better than four.

jastacey · #4 05-02-2010, 02:22 PM

After doing some googling on this subject ... I found a few threads on what some people have used in these cabinets ... one was using the Eminence Delta 12LF, and they only used 2, and they closed off the other 2 speaker holes Help me select new drivers for an Ampeg V4 cab! that is some what appealing to me as the cost of the drivers are less that 4 drivers and gives me the option of adding 2 more later ....the other thread, by Johnk10 details his work of using the Deltalite 2512's ...which has huge appeal to me ...but I'll have to wait and save up for the 4 speakers as they are $130.00 each ... that thread is Ampeg V4 cab for bass ... so any other thoughts?

johnk_10 · #5 05-02-2010, 02:50 PM

i used four 2512's in mine so i could use it with any head that i have and at just about any volume. the cab sounds great (similar to an old SVT 8x10 but with more mid punch) and i don't regret making that choice one bit. it also help's that i get my eminence drivers at dealer's cost.

here's mine with the JBL aluminum dust caps on them:

billfitzmaurice · #6 05-02-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jastacey

After doing some googling on this subject ... I found a few threads on what some people have used in these cabinets ... one was using the Eminence Delta 12LF, and they only used 2, and they closed off the other 2 speaker holes Help me select new drivers for an Ampeg V4 cab! that is some what appealing to me as the cost of the drivers are less that 4 drivers and gives me the option of adding 2 more later ....the other thread, by Johnk10 details his work of using the Deltalite 2512's ...which has huge appeal to me ...but I'll have to wait and save up for the 4 speakers as they are $130.00 each ... that thread is Ampeg V4 cab for bass ... so any other thoughts?

I'd load it with two 3012LFs on one side and two six or eight inch midranges on the other, along the lines of a fEarful 12/6 times two. You could start with one 3012LF, block the other holes, add the rest as when $ permits.

davelowell2 · #7 05-02-2010, 05:20 PM

Bill, would your solution allow for the cab to remain sealed or would porting be necessary?

johnk_10 · #8 05-02-2010, 07:01 PM

i'm not Bill, but i think it should be ported (tuned).

majortoby · #9 05-02-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by johnk_10

Wow, that sir, is the win. You win at talkbass

billfitzmaurice · #10 05-02-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by davelowell2

Bill, would your solution allow for the cab to remain sealed or would porting be necessary?

You could run it sealed, but it would work a lot better down low vented. You could always vent it later on if it doesn't have enough low end sealed.

Grooveman1961 · #11 05-03-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jastacey

After doing some googling on this subject ... I found a few threads on what some people have used in these cabinets ... one was using the Eminence Delta 12LF, and they only used 2, and they closed off the other 2 speaker holes Help me select new drivers for an Ampeg V4 cab! that is some what appealing to me as the cost of the drivers are less that 4 drivers and gives me the option of adding 2 more later ....the other thread, by Johnk10 details his work of using the Deltalite 2512's ...which has huge appeal to me ...but I'll have to wait and save up for the 4 speakers as they are $130.00 each ... that thread is Ampeg V4 cab for bass ... so any other thoughts?

Alpha 12's? less spendy, should work ok in a sealed cab.

S2012's perhaps.

johnk_10 · #12 05-03-2010, 05:23 PM

yes, s2012's would be great too.

dubstylee · #13 05-03-2010, 05:46 PM

I used S2012's in mine and I think it sounds grand. Very punchy in the low mids, I loaded four in mine because they were a little more cost friendly ($80 per speaker). Even though they cost less, they still sound great to my ears.

rllefebv · #14 05-03-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dubstylee

I used S2012's in mine and I think it sounds grand. Very punchy in the low mids, I loaded four in mine because they were a little more cost friendly ($80 per speaker). Even though they cost less, they still sound great to my ears.

Nice!

-robert

BassGreaser · #15 05-03-2010, 08:39 PM

all this talk about these V4 cabs is making want to get one! where and how much do they go for?

thombo · #16 05-03-2010, 09:02 PM

johnk_10, or anyone else- what is the purpose of the aluminum dust covers?

dubstylee · #17 05-03-2010, 09:12 PM

I got mine used for $125, but somebody had installed side handles on it, so I just sealed them off appropriately, it was actually a fun project. I also lined it per JohnK's help, thanks again John!

billfitzmaurice · #18 05-04-2010, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by thombo

johnk_10, or anyone else- what is the purpose of the aluminum dust covers?

Supposedly it extends high-frequency response, but that's not necessarily the case, as paper domes can extend just as high. Where JBL was concerned the reason for their use was as much marketing as it was performance: you knew it was a JBL if you saw a 4" aluminum dome.

johnk_10 · #19 05-04-2010, 08:16 AM

i found that the aluminum dust caps actually did add just a little more top end to the 2512's, but not really all that much.

jastacey · #20 05-04-2010, 08:40 AM

Here's a photo of my V-4 Cabinet, that I'm going to rework/restore ... A couple of questions for John 10 ... how much tolex does this cabinet require and on the rubber feet on your cabinet, did you use a bolt & T-nut, or did you use a wood screw ... oh one more item ... are the amp cups glued in, in addition to being stapled in?

For those who need to know ... I paid $75.00 for the empty cabinet