Ampeg V4 Club - Page 25

coreyfyfe · #**481** 01-15-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by christw

Well guys, looks like I'll be joining this club with a VT-22 if I can. Got a possible line on a semi-local one at a good price.

Speaking of "like an SVT" here's a V9 in Atlanta... http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/msg/3414876439.html

Pretty sure that's a straight up SVT. In the later 70s they had SVT/V9 on the chassis like the V4/VT-22 or V2/VT-40 because they used the same power amps. I think the V9 should only have two inputs on the front (like the V4).

Henko · #**482** 01-15-2013, 12:22 PM

My late 70's V-4B on top of my 2x15 Marshall JCM - and put under pressure by my Mesa 400. Two different beasts, love them both.

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christw · #**483** 01-15-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by coreyfyfe

Pretty sure that's a straight up SVT. In the later 70s they had SVT/V9 on the chassis like the V4/VT-22 or V2/VT-40 because they used the same power amps. I think the V9 should only have two inputs on the front (like the V4).

Gotcha. Also, I'm bummed, that VT-22 sold... $400 was too good to be true!

**Bass 45** · #**484** 01-15-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by two fingers

Man that is sweet. Good to know about just replacing the drivers in that cab! Now I know what I'm scouting for.

Yeah - those V-2's are not that common, but they can be found cheap now and then.

Not only did I get lucky with the V-2 find - but the speakers came from a 4-12 guitar cab that I paid like $70 for. When I got that guitar cab home, I pulled a speaker and found they had an Ampeg part number (86-107-08) and were made by Eminence. After a bit of research I found that the speakers were designed for a ported bass combo and not long after that, I found the V-2 for sale (very cheap because it had worn out speakers in it).

Unfortunately, those speakers (86-107-08) cost $150 apiece from Loud/Ampeg (yikes) - but I am sure a comparable model can be had from Eminence (or ?).

Also, I should add that my V-2 is a tilt back model. I am not sure if the earlier flatbacks would also work as good for bass.

Good luck!

coreyfyfe · #**485** 01-15-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bass 45

Also, I should add that my V-2 is a tilt back model. I am not sure if the earlier flatbacks would also work as good for bass.

I didn't realize they made a tilt-back V2 cab. Interesting.

**Bass 45** · #**486** 01-15-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by coreyfyfe

I didn't realize they made a tilt-back V2 cab. Interesting.

Yep. The original CTS speakers are date coded for 1977. I would guess that the V-2 went tilt in '75 like the rest of the Ampeg bigs.

Birdbrain · #**487** 01-15-2013, 03:10 PM

Is my '72 V4B powerful enough to drive an Ampeg PR410HLF??

**Bass 45** · #**488** 01-15-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdbrain

Is my '72 V4B powerful enough to drive an Ampeg PR410HLF??

I have no doubts

BassSurfer · #**489** 01-15-2013, 04:31 PM

Updated shot with the new cabinet. Sounds absolutely phenomenal with the Ampeg 4x10!

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3mrhythm · #**490** 01-15-2013, 08:24 PM

well its settled.. i'm keeping one of the vt22 and going to sell the other and my swr sm400 head.

the vt22 head is awesome.. really proved it at practice today. awesome tone and tons of power.. really brought my EV 15L to life.

so what would be better to do.. cut down the current vt22 combo amp to head size? or grab some wood and build a new head box?

one thing that will bug me is that my current head and cab are teh same width and are really compact on stage.. now the head is going to wider than my cab.. so i''m going to have to figure something out to keep the setup looking clean

two fingers · #**491** 01-15-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdbrain

Is my '72 V4B powerful enough to drive an Ampeg PR410HLF??

I actually posted the exact same question in a separate thread a couple of weeks ago and got mostly "no" for an answer. Not only did most think it wasn't strong enough, but they also thought the combination wouldn't sound very good with the cab having very modern voicing. So I didn't buy the cab and my search goes on.

3mrhythm · #**492** 01-15-2013, 08:42 PM

my 15L is a 400w 8ohm also.. and the vt22 (v4) powers it awesomely.

i've been thinking about trying a 4x10 cab.. would a svt 410 work with the v4?

coreyfyfe · #**493** 01-15-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 3mrhythm

so what would be better to do.. cut down the current vt22 combo amp to head size? or grab some wood and build a new head box?

I would either build or buy a new head case. Save the combo in case you want to sell it again in the future or use it as a guitar amp. Fliptops sells reproduction head cases, but they're a bit pricey. As far as the width, not many modern cabs are as wide as the V4. I was always a little put off by the size difference as well, but you either learn to live with it or get a wider cab

3mrhythm · #**494** 01-15-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by coreyfyfe

I would either build or buy a new head case. Save the combo in case you want to sell it again in the future or use it as a guitar amp. Fliptops sells reproduction head cases, but they're a bit pricey. As far as the width, not many modern cabs are as wide as the V4. I was always a little put off by the size difference as well, but you either learn to live with it or get a wider cab

yeah if i'm going to drop 200 bux i might as well buy a flight case and built it into that.

**Bass 45** · #**495** 01-15-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by two fingers

I actually posted the exact same question in a separate thread a couple of weeks ago and got mostly "no" for an answer. Not only did most think it wasn't strong enough, but they also thought the combination wouldn't sound very good with the cab having very modern voicing. So I didn't buy the cab and my search goes on.

I have seen many people use an 810e with their V4 with success - so why would it not be powerful enough for a 410?.

Also, I don't know how people can say the "voicing" won't work without hearing the combination for themselves.

That being said, I had a PR410HLF for a short time and I was not crazy about it. It was overweight, farted out early and looked a bit odd to me - also, it lost the side by side tone comparisons with my other cabs of the time.

I have an older SVT410 that (I posted a photo of it on page 17 post330 of this thread). The V4 and the early SVT410 play together very well.

jumbodbassman · #**496** 01-15-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bass 45

I have seen many people use an 810e with their V4 with success - so why would it not be powerful enough for a 410?.

Also, I don't know how people can say the "voicing" won't work without hearing the combination for themselves.

That being said, I had a PR410HLF for a short time and I was not crazy about it. It was overweight, farted out early and looked a bit odd to me - also, it lost the side by side tone comparisons with my other cabs of the time.

I have an older SVT410 that (I posted a photo of it on page 17 post330 of this thread). The V4 and the early SVT410 play together very well.

I used my 72 V4 with a 73 810 cab. Best sounding rig i ever had. Sounded better than the SVT head which i only used when using 2 cabs.

two fingers · #**497** 01-15-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bass 45

I have seen many people use an 810e with their V4 with success - so why would it not be powerful enough for a 410?.

Also, I don't know how people can say the "voicing" won't work without hearing the combination for themselves.

That being said, I had a PR410HLF for a short time and I was not crazy about it. It was overweight, farted out early and looked a bit odd to me - also, it lost the side by side tone comparisons with my other cabs of the time.

I have an older SVT410 that (I posted a photo of it on page 17 post330 of this thread). The V4 and the early SVT410 play together very well.

Well, many of the guys in my thread said that the PR was more power hungry than the fridge (8-10) They pretty much said that when you feed the PR a ton of watts, it works really well, but otherwise it didn't. Some mentioned having used the cab with an SVT and didn't like the combo. But you're correct. None of them claimed to have heard a V4 through the PR. But being that the cab was a four hour drive from here, it wasn't worth the gamble when I already have a ton of gear and was in no major rush to buy a cab. The main reason I was even looking at it was its width. It bugs the crap out of me for the V4 to hang over the sides of a smaller cab. I know. Silly issue but one I just can't get around.

**Bass 45** · #**498** 01-15-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jumbodbassman

I used my 72 V4 with a 73 810 cab. Best sounding rig i ever had. Sounded better than the SVT head which i only used when using 2 cabs.

For a while I had my '74 V4 (the one I mentioned in post 330) paired with a '74 flatback 810. Beautiful tone. I eventually sold the 810 (and other things) to pay for another one of those pesky Scroll Basses we love. I was afraid to gig with the 810 anyway - because it was mint - hang tags - original cover and all.

JimmyM · #**499** 01-15-2013, 09:15 PM

I would say a cab that pushes a ton of lows like the HLF series wouldn't be the best choice for a V4 if loudness is a concern.

BassSurfer · #**500** 01-15-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

I would say a cab that pushes a ton of lows like the HLF series wouldn't be the best choice for a V4 if loudness is a concern.

That picture I posted earlier today contained my newly (and extremely, cheaply acquired

) Ampeg SVT410HEN. I can't even turn the Ampeg V4's volume past 2.5-3 without my walls coming down! It compliments the sound of my V4 perfectly with alot of volume (clean headroom to spare)