Any experience with Krank?

MetalViking13 · #1 07-22-2010, 04:42 PM

has anyone on here had any experience with Krank cabs? Mainly the Basszilla 2x12-4x10 stack. Says it comes loaded with "four premium Eminence BP 102 10” and two 12 LFA 12” speakers giving the cab a 4 ohm load capable of handling over 1600W"

http://www.krankamps.com/products/ba...-bass-cab-2626

Crystalman85 · #2 07-22-2010, 05:00 PM

I've once seen a video demonstration of that amp. their bass amp sounds very tingy and rough. I personally would prefer the randall rb500. this bass amp has a much smoother sound.

JimmyM · #3 07-22-2010, 05:18 PM

i completely fail to see the point in loading up a cab with four 10's and two 12's. if you're going to do a multi-driver cab, do it right and use a mid driver instead. more engineering by looks.

RickenBoogie · #4 07-22-2010, 05:23 PM

Agreed, the 410/212 concept *seems* almost as misguided as the 410/15 that's still popular for all the wrong reasons.

jelwood · #5 07-22-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

i completely fail to see the point in loading up a cab with four 10's and two 12's. if you're going to do a multi-driver cab, do it right and use a mid driver instead. more engineering by looks.

Here is something Jimmy and I can agree on.

The first thing they state is that the cabinet is as big as an 810? Wouldn't that work to their disadvantage? 410 and a 212 isn't going to be as loud as 810s.

blendermassacre · #6 07-22-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

i completely fail to see the point in loading up a cab with four 10's and two 12's. if you're going to do a multi-driver cab, do it right and use a mid driver instead. more engineering by looks.

more engineering by \m/etal

craig.p · #7 07-22-2010, 09:27 PM

I made it only halfway through the demo video before I had to run screaming from the room. Man, that was hard to take.

MetalViking13 · #8 07-22-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Crystalman85

I've once seen a video demonstration of that amp. their bass amp sounds very tingy and rough. I personally would prefer the randall rb500. this bass amp has a much smoother sound.

I'm talkin about the cabinet not the head. I can't base if I like it on just this video for: The head could be reason as to why there might not be the best tone, could of been the bass itself cuz I'm not a fan of gibson, or it could of been the camera itself cuz it didn't seem like the quality of the camera was all that great. Besides I didn't think it sounded that bad when he wasn't using the wah, I'll admit it did sound muddy with the wah which I don't like since I do use one. It just sounded like he had the treble up maybe a little too much. When I play I like a sound that cuts through the mix and is cold sounding but boom when I hit on the E string, or in my case the C# string.

The thing is though is I see all these people running around with some combination of a 4x10 cab, a 2x12 cab, and a 1x15 cab and they sound pretty good, at least what I can hear through the mix, but this thing just puts one of those combinations into one solid piece instead of making one carry around 2 cabs and get speaker 2 cables.

I've also seen reviews of the Mesa Boogie power house 1200 & 1000 and they weren't bad some were actually pretty good. Then I look it up on here and people have nothing but bad stuff to say about it, some never really giving a definite reason as why they don't like it, and others that do actually give a reason are then contradicted by what some one else says(but again that is opinion and there will always be a contradictory opinion out there.)

jelwood · #9 07-22-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by craig.p

I made it only halfway through the demo video before I had to run screaming from the room. Man, that was hard to take.

It doesn't seem like it was the best recording quality though. Somewhere in there I heard a growl that I wanted to like, underneath all the other yuck. Would have been better if the player didn't think he was on a guitar too.

blendermassacre · #10 07-22-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jelwood

It doesn't seem like it was the best recording quality though. Somewhere in there I heard a growl that I wanted to like, underneath all the other yuck. Would have been better if the player didn't think he was on a guitar too.

I thought he was in permanent metal stance, before I realized he was standing down

JimmyM · #11 07-22-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalViking13

I'm talkin about a cabinet here man not a head.

The thing is though is I see all these people running around with some combination of a 4x10 cab, a 2x12 cab, and a 1x15 cab and they sound pretty good, at least what I can hear through the mix, but this thing just puts one of those combinations into one solid piece instead of making one carry around 2 cabs and get speaker 2 cables.

combinations like that suck, imho. i know it's not a popular opinion with folks on here who own rigs with those types of speaker combinations, but they make no sense from an engineering standpoint due to the creation of possible phasing issues and volume mismatches. some would argue that they just plain sound good, and that's cool, but i've never been a fan. i'd rather have your carvin 810.

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I've also seen reviews of the Mesa Boogie power house 1200 & 1000 and they weren't bad some were actually pretty good. Then I look it up on here and people have nothing but bad stuff to say about it, some never really giving a definite reason as why they don't like it, and others that do actually give a reason are then contradicted by what some one else says(but again that is opinion and there will always be a contradictory opinion out there.)

well why'd you ask, then?

RFord04 · #12 07-22-2010, 10:03 PM

Yeah, it seems like a concept based around looks as opposed to sound. And lugging around two mid sized cabs is usually a lot easier and more practical than one huge one IME, and you can use them one-at-a-time if you don't need massive amounts of volume.

Bass_Pounder · #13 07-22-2010, 10:09 PM

If you are REALLY set on getting a 2X12, and a 4X10 then I would suggest buying them from reputable bass amp companies rather than from some metal guitar company trying to break into the bass market.

MetalViking13 · #14 07-22-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

i'd rather have your carvin 810.

hell man I'm plannin on sellin it lol. I like the whole 8x10 set up & I understand why so many would choose it, but I played out of some guy's peavey 2x10 1x15 stack at a show since I couldn't get my stack and holy shat that thing had some KICK! more kick than I've ever got out of my stack. ever since then I've been either lookin for an 8x10 stack that gives me a huge kick, doesn't have to be as big of kick since that was a 15 and I know those things just have a naturally large kick to them, but I just want some cab that can give me that kick I want with the clarity and highs that I get out my carvin. I'm also lookin at either a SWR Megoliath or a Hartke HX810, but this thing just caught my eye too and I couldn't find any info on it other than what's already on the Krank site.

JimmyM · #15 07-22-2010, 10:28 PM

i've played 115 cabs that have had zero kick and cabs with only 10"s that had more kick than an angry mule. and vice versa. it's all a case by case basis, and the only generalization you can make is that you can't generalize.

NKUSigEp · #16 07-22-2010, 10:32 PM

I opened this thread half-expecting to see someone posting about using a Krank guitar cab for bass. Now I find that they're making bass gear. I agree with the guy that said this: "buy from a reputable bass amp company rather than from some metal guitar company trying to break into the bass market". I commend Krank for trying to develop something new. But...

First of all, it seems like the multi-speaker size fad has died off with only a few stragglers that got left behind. Bassists are smarter about their rigs now than they've ever been. A couple clicks and a post or two later and you've got all kinds of technical advice from pretty reputable people on the net.

Second, if you ARE going to make something like that, why would you put the 2x12's on top of the 4x10's? That just looks dumb. Everyone and their mother puts the larger sized speakers on the bottom.

Third, no. Just no. Sorry, but that video demo sucks. The tone sounds like a Squire through a Crate BX15 practice amp turned up too loud (I had one for almost 10 years, I ought to know), the FX sound ridiculous...if you're the guy playing in that video, I'm sorry. I mean no offense to you but I love a good hairy metal bass sound more than just about anyone, but that my friend - a kazoo player is more metal than that.

PS...metalviking - you said "kick" 6 times in one paragraph. Congratulations!

spaz21387 · #17 07-22-2010, 10:46 PM

I was dissapointed the krank guitar cabs arent that bad. But their bass stuff doesnt appeal to me. maybe the guys strings were brand new but the amp sounded overly tinny without the low punch that a bass should have. I used to have an epiphone t bird and when i plugged it into my hartike ha3500 and ampeg 15en cab it sounded amazing.

MetalViking13 · #18 07-22-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NKUSigEp

Third, no. Just no. Sorry, but that video demo sucks. The tone sounds like a Squire through a Crate BX15 practice amp turned up too loud (I had one for almost 10 years, I ought to know), the FX sound ridiculous...if you're the guy playing in that video, I'm sorry. I mean no offense to you but I love a good hairy metal bass sound more than just about anyone, but that my friend - a kazoo player is more metal than that.

PS...metalviking - you said "kick" 6 times in one paragraph. Congratulations!

I know cuz I'm a Bad Ass

. again one has to consider all the parts in that video to what made the sound. could of been the head, the bass, or camera. I'm not saying that the cab wasn't part of the problem. What I am saying though, or more of asking, is has any one had the chance to try this, the cab ONLY, them self? I'm not asking for an opinion based on the video. The only reason I put the link to the sight up there is so people could get the specs on it.

KramerBassFan · #19 07-23-2010, 05:48 AM

Looks like a Modern Peavey 3620, or at least its trying to be.

No thank you!

I'll pass judgement until i can actually play one... but i don't like buying new gear.

PSPookie · #20 07-23-2010, 08:04 AM

Metalviking, it sounds like you made up your mind before you started the thread. If that's the cab you want, then get it. You don't have to justify it to anyone.

OTOH, if you want honest opinions from your bass-brothers about the engineering merits of that particular cab then re-read this thread with an open mind.