anybody know anything about Bugera amps?

[mr.slap-tastic]

i was lookin around for a new cheep amp head, and i found this company called Bugera, iv never herd of them. does anyone have any persional experience with them?

[Burlington]

Behringer.

[mr.slap-tastic]

wait, there the same company?

[Din Of Win]

Bugera 1960


*keanu reeves* woah

[Burlington]

Originally Posted by mr.slap-tastic

wait, there the same company?

IIRC, yes.

[LiamPodmore]

Yeah, they are the same company, but from my experience Bugera are ALOT better than behringer, especially for guitar amps, i havent had chance to test one of their bass amps as none of my local shops stock it, but if they are anything like the guitar amps they will be damn good.

Liam

[jmarnett]

They are distributed by behringer, but are a separate company. The guitar heads are good, my guitarist plays one and it sounds a lot like a Peavey 6505.

[Bass_Pounder]

Originally Posted by jmarnett

They are distributed by behringer, but are a separate company. The guitar heads are good, my guitarist plays one and it sounds a lot like a Peavey 6505.

They would like to you to believe that, but wrong.............


When Bugera first came out, they were prominently displayed on the Behringer website, with the explanation that they were the "higher end" amp division of Behringer.

Same company, same lame business practices.


P.S. - Your guitarists amp sounds like a Peavey 6505 because they reverse engineered it from one. It is a blatant ripoff of the Peavey.


ETA - As I said, they have done a good job of "seperating themselves" from Behringer, but old press releases and website archives don't lie.

From the Behringer site:

"Ok, for those of you who don’t know (if that’s possible!), BEHRINGER makes a hand-built boutique-style line of guitar and bass amps under the name BUGERA"

http://www.behringerdownload.de/News...1_archive.html

[Floyd Eye]

Meh.

[chicago_mike]

Bad
Ugly
Gangrene infested
Erratic
Retarded
Amplifier

[daflores]

Bugera = Behringer

[Mozilla]

Originally Posted by Bass_Pounder

They would like to you to believe that, but wrong.............


When Bugera first came out, they were prominently displayed on the Behringer website, with the explanation that they were the "higher end" amp division of Behringer.

Same company, same lame business practices.


P.S. - Your guitarists amp sounds like a Peavey 6505 because they reverse engineered it from one. It is a blatant ripoff of the Peavey.


ETA - As I said, they have done a good job of "seperating themselves" from Behringer, but old press releases and website archives don't lie.

From the Behringer site:

"Ok, for those of you who don’t know (if that’s possible!), BEHRINGER makes a hand-built boutique-style line of guitar and bass amps under the name BUGERA"

http://www.behringerdownload.de/News...1_archive.html

I just don't get why so many folks on this site...rip on Behringer for copying designs from other makers. That sort of thing happens all the time in manufacturing.

Ever notice how Honda and Toyota have models that look the same? Ever notice how certain bourbons have very similar label designs? Ever notice how many CD, tape and turntables resemble each other? It's been happening for years in every marketplace.

Give the bashing a rest if you don't plan on bashing everyone for it. At least Behringer doesn't try to rip people off by charging more than the original maker....which is what happens in alot of other industries.

My example for overcharging when copying is: Makers Mark. MM got their recipe and yeast strain from the owners of the Weller label, back in the early 1950's. Why does MM charge $10 more than Weller? Both use corn and wheat and are 90 proof. Now, if you want to bash MM for copying Weller and then charging more....go for it. At least Behringer doesn't try screw you out of your money for a copied product.

Just my two cents.

[hdracer]

Originally Posted by Mozilla

I just don't get why so many folks on this site...rip on Behringer for copying designs from other makers. That sort of thing happens all the time in manufacturing.

Ever notice how Honda and Toyota have models that look the same? Ever notice how certain bourbons have very similar label designs? Ever notice how many CD, tape and turntables resemble each other? It's been happening for years in every marketplace.

Give the bashing a rest if you don't plan on bashing everyone for it. At least Behringer doesn't try to rip people off by charging more than the original maker....which is what happens in alot of other industries.

My example for overcharging when copying is: Makers Mark. MM got their recipe and yeast strain from the owners of the Weller label, back in the early 1950's. Why does MM charge $10 more than Weller? Both use corn and wheat and are 90 proof. Now, if you want to bash MM for copying Weller and then charging more....go for it. At least Behringer doesn't try screw you out of your money for a copied product.

Just my two cents.

If you spent the time and money to R&D a product and build a reputation you HAVE to charge for that. When you reverse engineer that product and put it in a different looking box you dont have to charge so much. I do not buy knock offs.

[Hawaii Islander]

Originally Posted by hdracer

If you spent the time and money to R&D a product and build a reputation you HAVE to charge for that. When you reverse engineer that product and put it in a different looking box you dont have to charge so much. I do not buy knock offs.

Marshall and Bassman amp design are similar to the Bugera and Peavey situation. I wouldn't rip Marshall or boycott their gear because of it. Just sayin'.

[lunarpollen]

People don't bash because they rip off other designs. They bash because they rip off other designs and regurgitate it in a weaker, inferior, more fragile, poorer-quality version. They overstate their capablities, and pretend they are giving you almost the exact same product of what they are copying but without the fancy brand name. They created the brand name Bugera in order to lure unsuspecting people in who might otherwise balk at the Behringer name because of experience/reputation.

Most people on TB don't care about copied designs, as long as the quality is OK and the copiers don't exaggerate the specs of their products.

[mr.slap-tastic]

ok. i honestly dont care if its a knock off, im on a budget. but dose anyone know how the bass amps sound? all iv herd are how the guitar amps sound and im considering buying a bass amp so that doesn't really help me.

does anybody have one? has anyone know what they compare to?

[lbwdog]

OK ....you can compare them to what comes out of the south end of a north bound dog.....

[dlvalure]

my good friend has one hand its a 3200 watt bass amp and that thing is the truff!!!!!

[coreyfyfe]

Originally Posted by dlvalure

my good friend has one hand its a 3200 watt bass amp and that thing is the truff!!!!!

No it's not.

Originally Posted by toobalicious

peak power... heh...

just FWIW---- there is NO WAY to produce 3600 watts of output from *anything* plugged into a 15 amp outlet. not even for a millisecond (peak power). unless we are talking about a step-up transformer or something (not an instrument amplifier), and even then i am not sure how that would add up.
15A * 120 VAC = 1800 watts (from the wall). and while i am neither a scientist or an electrician, i am 99.99% certain that "continuous" draw needs to be at 80% or less of the circuit's maximum rating to be safe and reliable. wonder what the bugera says right next to the power plug socket?

At best, given the 90% efficiency of a class-D power section then at best it could put out 1620 watts on 120 VAC (3240 if you're on 240 VAC). With class A/B power you're down closer to 50% efficiency which mean this thing is really only putting out 900 watts max. I don't know what they have in these for a power section, but if you read through this thread you'll see more technical info regarding their power claims:

the NEW bugera 3600 watt amp

[Eric Moesle]

Originally Posted by dlvalure

my good friend has one hand its a 3200 watt bass amp and that thing is the truff!!!!!

Total and utter bullcrap. Not true under any circumstances.

Behringer and Bugera are the same. Cheap quality, unreliable, poor sounding, but they make it LOOK like a quality name brand, quote some awesome specs which are false claims, and unsuspecting idiots buy it and claim that its awesome because they simply don't know better.