Anyone know of a good drop in replacement speaker for swr 6x10s

spaz21387 · #1 04-04-2011, 05:52 PM

Im still having problems with 1 of the 10s in my swr 6x10 rattling so I think rather then re glue it I want to replace it. Can you get the original pas drivers anywhere? I have tried guitar center since they are a fender dealer but all they can get are eminence. Is the eminience basslite s2010 a good drop in speaker for this cab. Im sure people are going to flame me because im too lazy to measure the cab specs so has anyone replaced the drivers in a swr 6x10 and if so what speakers did you use? ... so let the flaming begin ha

coreyfyfe · #2 04-04-2011, 08:07 PM

Check the impedance on the speaker first, given that it's a 6x10 the most likely case is for it to be a 5.3 or 24 ohm speaker, depending on the wiring.

If that's the case, you want to find an OEM replacement or get the speaker repaired.

*real late edit just for clarity - 6 or 24 ohm speakers. OEM replacement in ampeg 6x10 is this, could also work for you:

http://www.speakerrepair.com/mm5/mer...Code=86-510-06

spaz21387 · #3 04-05-2011, 02:26 AM

its not labeled but im pretty sure its an 8 ohm speaker. Somewhere on tb I read that the swr 6x10 is 3 pairs of 8 ohm speakers wired in series if i remember right to run at 4 ohms. Can you poke around with a multimeter to find the impedence of a speaker if its not labeled?

**Ronny49** · #4 04-05-2011, 02:50 AM

Avatar is selling some nice Celestions right now on ebay or you can call them. Only $79 for 2!! How could you go wrong?

8 and 16 ohm versions.

coreyfyfe · #5 04-05-2011, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by spaz21387

its not labeled but im pretty sure its an 8 ohm speaker. Somewhere on tb I read that the swr 6x10 is 3 pairs of 8 ohm speakers wired in series if i remember right to run at 4 ohms. Can you poke around with a multimeter to find the impedence of a speaker if its not labeled?

That math doesn't work. Two parallel sets of three 8 ohm speakers in series would be a 12 ohm cab, conversely, three parallel sets of two 8 ohm speakers in series would be 5.3 ohms. Unless they've got some kind of funny wiring scheme in there, in order for it to be a 4 ohm cab like it is, the speakers would have to be 5.3 ohm in series/parallel like the ampeg 6x10 or 24 ohm in parallel like the berg 6x10s. Or it's not a 4 ohm cab.

Check the individual speaker and the whole cab with a meter. When set to read DC impedance it should show about 70% of the nominal impedance - ie if it's a 4 ohm speaker, it should read 3 ohms, an 8 ohm speaker it should read around 5.6 ohms.

billfitzmaurice · #6 04-05-2011, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronny49

Avatar is selling some nice Celestions right now on ebay or you can call them. Only $79 for 2!! How could you go wrong?

If they aren't compatible with the cab you could go very wrong, as in spending $79 on something you can't use.
OP, your choice is to either match the existing drivers precisely or get the bad driver reconed.

MuthaFunk · #7 04-05-2011, 10:08 AM

You can get original replacements on ebay.

georgestrings · #8 04-05-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

If they aren't compatible with the cab you could go very wrong, as in spending $79 on something you can't use.
OP, your choice is to either match the existing drivers precisely or get the bad driver reconed.

Agreed 100% on all of the above...

- georgestrings

**Ronny49** · #9 04-05-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

If they aren't compatible with the cab you could go very wrong, as in spending $79 on something you can't use.
OP, your choice is to either match the existing drivers precisely or get the bad driver reconed.

I was simply letting the OP in on a deal. It is up to him to call Avatar and find out if they will work or not.

GrowlerBox · #10 04-05-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronny49

I was simply letting the OP in on a deal. It is up to him to call Avatar and find out if they will work or not.

Except for the "how could you go wrong?" bit.

billfitzmaurice · #11 04-05-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronny49

I was simply letting the OP in on a deal. It is up to him to call Avatar and find out if they will work or not.

IMO the TF1020 Celestions are poorly suited for electric bass and won't work well in any cab. Why do you think Avatar is blowing them out?

spaz21387 · #12 04-05-2011, 02:10 PM

BRAND NEW Genuine SWR 10" 8-Ohm 200w SPEAKER Driver | eBay

The ebay seller says its for a swr goliath sr. but do i dare trust ebay? also its expensive... 145$

georgestrings · #13 04-05-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spaz21387

BRAND NEW Genuine SWR 10" 8-Ohm 200w SPEAKER Driver | eBay

The ebay seller says its for a swr goliath sr. but do i dare trust ebay? also its expensive... 145$

IMO, the only smart options are to either buy another new driver directly from SWR, or have the original reconed - with buying a new one being the best choice... Why would you buy something off of ebay when you could get the real deal from the manufacturer for less money??? Mesa charges around $100 for their 10" drivers - I doubt SWR's are any more than that...

- georgestrings

spaz21387 · #14 04-05-2011, 02:36 PM

the problem is swr switched to eminence when fender bought them out. this is a pre fender swr cab. I did research and these old drivers are made by pas. And I cant find them anywhere.

georgestrings · #15 04-05-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spaz21387

the problem is swr switched to eminence when fender bought them out. this is a pre fender swr cab. I did research and these old drivers are made by pas. And I cant find them anywhere.

But the cab itself didn't change, IIRC - I'd call SWR and see what they recommend... As far as the ebay thing - there is no way that driver could work for all those cabs, as a 610's driver will nearly always have a different impedence rating than one for a 410 or 810...

My guess is that a current SWR replacement driver for a Goliath Sr will work just fine in your cab... Whenever possible, always go to the manufacturer, I say...

- georgestrings

spaz21387 · #16 04-05-2011, 02:44 PM

Thats a good point. ill call swr since they wont respond to emails even though id be buying a speaker from them. I just really hope it takes 8ohm eminence basslite s2010s because i have 2 of those sitting around...

billfitzmaurice · #17 04-05-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by spaz21387

ill call swr since they wont respond to emails

Good customer service that...
Chances are they don't know anyway.

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I just really hope it takes 8ohm eminence basslite s2010s because i have 2 of those sitting around...

If you already have them try them. They're probably better than the OEM.

TheNightLife · #18 04-05-2011, 04:06 PM

Id call them. I've never had an issue with there tech support over the phone. And they should still know exactly what speakers you need. Give them a call

spaz21387 · #19 04-05-2011, 04:51 PM

once i barrow my friends multimeter and confirm the speakers are 8ohms ill put them in the cab. now the question is where to put the basslites? middle? the bad one is the bottem left but the middle right is rattling alittle too but only with a 5 string and the low B.

Tracebassplayer · #20 06-17-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spaz21387

once i barrow my friends multimeter and confirm the speakers are 8ohms ill put them in the cab. now the question is where to put the basslites? middle? the bad one is the bottem left but the middle right is rattling alittle too but only with a 5 string and the low B.

Middle right is probably just a tad loose on the mounts and vibrating against the cab. mind you I said "Probably"...

Are you going to measure the speaker for resistance or impedance ? most VOM's don't read impedance, only resistance and they are not the same.

if you're gonna use both basslites, I'd wire them together. i.e fire them together on the same speaker wire harness.