Is anyone making an internal-powered cab like a Bergantino IP-212?

[MrDOS]

As I lust after Volvo (and BMW!) station wagons and think how close I am to driving a passenger car to each and every gig (after needing a cargo van for the past 5 years because I was the PA guy, keyboard player AND bass player), I am thinking an IP212 (or IP310) would be great for my current gig.

I did not have the $ while I watched the last of them disappear from all of my favorite online retail haunts. Other than waiting what would seem like a hundred months to see one here or on eBay, are any other manufacturers doing the internal-power thing?

I am surprised I don't know of any, looking at the PA situation where Turbosound, Mackie, Yorkville and many others have been going in that direction for years.

[RickenBoogie]

Yeah, lots of powered PA spkrs, but really, it makes much less sense with bass gear, as most players use intergrated heads.

[Bob C]

I think it is a cool idea for big venues. You could add an infinite number of cabs without dropping the impedance down to negative valuse. And each cab would ideally be matched to its power source.

I think a (very) few other manufacturers are making powered bass cabs. I can't think of any off hand though.

[shoot-r]

Originally Posted by MrDOS

As I lust after Volvo (and BMW!) station wagons and think how close I am to driving a passenger car to each and every gig (after needing a cargo van for the past 5 years because I was the PA guy, keyboard player AND bass player), I am thinking an IP212 (or IP310) would be great for my current gig.

I did not have the $ while I watched the last of them disappear from all of my favorite online retail haunts. Other than waiting what would seem like a hundred months to see one here or on eBay, are any other manufacturers doing the internal-power thing?

I am surprised I don't know of any, looking at the PA situation where Turbosound, Mackie, Yorkville and many others have been going in that direction for years.

G.K. just released powered bass cabinets, the MBP series.

www.gallien-krueger.com

[jsbarber]

The Bergantino "IP" (Intelligent Power) series cabinets are not just powered cabinets. That would just be a "P" series. They have a DSP that is programmed to provide a flat frequency response and control other aspects of the signal for optimal performance. So, I would be cautious about other powered cabinets as substitutes for an IP series cabinet.

The IP series cabinets are outstanding, and I would highly recommend trying to get your hands on one. They appear from time to time on TB in the for sale section.

FWIW,

Jim

BTW, you could always check out the Meyer's powered cabinets. Anthony Jackson was using some of their gear for a while, and maybe still is.I think they also do the IP thing. They are very expensive though.

[Bassdirty]

Originally Posted by MrDOS

As I lust after Volvo station wagons

Me too.


Good luck.

[JGR]

Bag End offers powered versions of all their bass cabs.

[cybersnyder]

I think MarkBass has a relatively new powered cab. I think it was designed with Alain Caron and it may be designed to be used with their new floor preamp, also designed with Alain Caron.

[MrDOS]

Originally Posted by jsbarber

The Bergantino "IP" (Intelligent Power) series cabinets are not just powered cabinets. That would just be a "P" series. They have a DSP that is programmed to provide a flat frequency response and control other aspects of the signal for optimal performance. So, I would be cautious about other powered cabinets as substitutes for an IP series cabinet.

The IP series cabinets are outstanding, and I would highly recommend trying to get your hands on one. They appear from time to time on TB in the for sale section.

FWIW,

Jim

BTW, you could always check out the Meyer's powered cabinets. Anthony Jackson was using some of their gear for a while, and maybe still is.I think they also do the IP thing. They are very expensive though.

Thanks for the info, Jim. I am huge Bergantino fan, and have been shoving their virtues down local folks' throats for years.

When I bought my Turbosound PA years ago, I also auditioned one of the first Meyer PAs with servo controlled drivers. Very impressive, but also 4X the cost of what I purchased!


Thanks for all of the replies!

[T. Alan Smith]

Doesn't Phil Jones have a new powered cab now?

[Munjibunga]

TB member Prockenklang uses Meyer Sound cabs. The OP could PM him to get the lowdown. I think Prockenklang works where he could help you get some of them.

Originally Posted by jsbarber

The Bergantino "IP" (Intelligent Power) series cabinets are not just powered cabinets. That would just be a "P" series. They have a DSP that is programmed to provide a flat frequency response and control other aspects of the signal for optimal performance. So, I would be cautious about other powered cabinets as substitutes for an IP series cabinet.

The IP series cabinets are outstanding, and I would highly recommend trying to get your hands on one. They appear from time to time on TB in the for sale section.

FWIW,

Jim

BTW, you could always check out the Meyer's powered cabinets. Anthony Jackson was using some of their gear for a while, and maybe still is.I think they also do the IP thing. They are very expensive though.

[Jazz Ad]

Bag End have a few awesome ones.
It's no a very popular product, they tend not to last long on the market. EBS used to make great ones.

[jnewmark]

I've oftened wondered if I would like a powered cab on a pole to use as a stage monitor with the preamp of my choice. Our keyboard player uses one and loves it. The new GK cabs look promising, but, are there any PA types, besides the Meyer ones, that would be good for bass ? I'm thinking a 210 or 3 way 15.

[Nev375]

Bumping this old thread to see if anyone knows of anything new on the market or has any other ideas/solutions.

My dream is to have just my Kern IP777 pre sitting on top of a compact lightweight powered cab around the size of a 2x10, 2x12 or 1x15. A combo won't do because I don't want the extra preamp section, just my Kern.

Based on other threads, the new GK extension cabs are probably not a good solution because of the input level required. But that was close to what I'm hoping to find.

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by Nev375

Bumping this old thread to see if anyone knows of anything new on the market or has any other ideas/solutions.

My dream is to have just my Kern IP777 pre sitting on top of a compact lightweight powered cab around the size of a 2x10, 2x12 or 1x15. A combo won't do because I don't want the extra preamp section, just my Kern.

Based on other threads, the new GK extension cabs are probably not a good solution because of the input level required. But that was close to what I'm hoping to find.

DIY cab with your choice of power amp built in?

[Passinwind]

Originally Posted by Nev375

Bumping this old thread to see if anyone knows of anything new on the market or has any other ideas/solutions.

Do it yourself work for you?

http://www.speakerpower.net/

I've been gigging one of these for several years now, albeit mounted in a rack case. The amp cost way too much to limit it to one cab, in my world at least.

Hypex makes a pretty nice looking plate amp now too.

[Nev375]

Originally Posted by Passinwind

Do it yourself work for you?

http://www.speakerpower.net/

I've been gigging one of these for several years now, albeit mounted in a rack case. The amp cost way too much to limit it to one cab, in my world at least.

Hypex makes a pretty nice looking plate amp now too.

Plate amps, huh? I knew they existed, but never knew what they were called or thought to look for them.

Thanks, this is an idea I had not considered. Seems expensive though.

[Passinwind]

Originally Posted by Nev375

Plate amps, huh? I knew they existed, but never knew what they were called or thought to look for them.

Thanks, this is an idea I had not considered. Seems expensive though.

They are expensive, presumably since you're paying for an extra level of robustness that isn't really necessary for a racked power amp. At the time I bought mine I was attracted mainly by the very powerful onboard DSP, which also turns out to be a very powerful PITA to program.

The Bag End plate amp can be found online with a little sleuthing too.

[dDaddybass]

I heard Jim is supposed to be bring out something new along the lines of the IP. Should be interesting.