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[Chef]

Oh Snap!

Originally Posted by nostatic

I've got an Agro pedal if I want to get aggressive. Or I can call my ex-wife up...

[kringle77]

Mike, how do the mids and highs of the TC212 compare to the Hathor cab?

[rjmsteel]

Since I run two cabinets, I've been tilting the TC212 back ever so slightly to get those great mids & highs closer to my ear, without blowing right past me on a small stage or in the rehearsal room. I let my 15" loaded cabinet support just the bottom set flat on the floor. Yep it's in composite.



[quote="KJung"]

What an absolute perfect spec. Small footprint on stage, tall enough to get some sound a bit closer to your ear, stock drivers (no drama with repairs/replacement ever) and still 4ohms, and the amazing 'Duke horn/crossover' system that results in the nicest top end I've ever heard on a bass cab (maybe any cab). Under 50 pounds in the wood version... perfect. I assume Arnopol takes 10 pounds off of that for those who want a really lightweight monster.

[kringle77]

Definitely looking forward to some more Hathor info. Any insight on how it actually compares to know sealed cabs would be great. Im thinking that it will still have much more low end than a normal sealed cab though.

[Chef]

TC212 tracking shows Friday Delivery

[steve_rolfeca]

Originally Posted by Chef

TC212 tracking shows Friday Delivery

Woot!

[Bassist30]

Originally Posted by Chef

TC212 tracking shows Friday Delivery

Great feeling isn't it. Also thanks for the recommendation for the TC15AF. I love the cab. Good luck with the 212 and we are expecting a review even if its a few words. Wish i would had learned earlier of your TC15AF sale. i may want to get a second eventhough one is very loud. Eyes on a TC12AF.

[RColie]

Hey Ken,

Will you be using one of your Thunderchildren at the Chesterfield gig this weekend? Would you mind PMing me with details (date, time, place, rig)?

Thanks much!

Bob

Originally Posted by KJung

The 900 will kill with this cab, and should 'feel' like the 500 with the M212, but with massively more low end, and much softer upper mids (assuming it sounds relatively similar to the TC115). Both the Puma and the MB800 have nicely voiced lower mid and upper mid controls that help to put in a bit of low mid bump to give you that nice punchy low end, and an upper mid control nicely voiced to rough up the top end a smidge.

I have not ever used the port plugs on either of mine (12 and 15). The low end of these cabs (at least the TC112 and TC115... the stock 3012LF drivers in the TC212 MIGHT be a bit more extended... don't know) is a unique combination of 'super powerful but not overextended'. Fat without mush or mud or boom.

That being said, the three port design of the TC212 seems pretty cool and I assume plugging one port would work a bit like a hi pass filter (just guessing there).

It will be interesting to see what you think of the cab. The inherent voicing of the Thunderchild cabs is actually a bit similar to the Glock Blue Soul..... big, round, warm, powerful low end, and a very relaxed, pure, clean midrange and treble response.... like a very good studio monitor to my ears.

[RColie]

Originally Posted by Chef

TC212 tracking shows Friday Delivery

That could be worth the two hour drive to Columbia to hear that TC212 sing!

Bob

[rpsands]

The hathor has a much more tame low end than the normal TC cabs but I think it's a bit more than a typical sealed box - especially since it doesn't handle power the same way that a sealed box does (poorly). Can add in a lot more lows if you want.

[KJung]

Originally Posted by RColie

Hey Ken,

Will you be using one of your Thunderchildren at the Chesterfield gig this weekend? Would you mind PMing me with details (date, time, place, rig)?

Thanks much!

Bob

I will actually... TC115 Composite Compact with the Aguilar TH500 and the Alleva LM. I'm subbing, so will be scufflin' a bit, but come on out.

Villa Farotto in the bar area, close to the Chesterfield Airport way out West. Friday, 8-12. Hunt me down on break. I've played the room before..... not a great sounding room, but a fun gig. The group is pop/jazz.... everything from Earth, Wind and Fire to Steely Dan to Metheny to Lady Gaga. God help me

[nostatic]

Don't forget your Poker Face...

[KJung]

Originally Posted by nostatic

Don't forget your Poker Face...

Subbing with variety bands is always a trip! Doing a private with the same group on Saturday so Friday will be a nice safe 'run through' for me.

[RColie]

Awesome! Thanks Ken. I use a TC115 but would love to hear one in the audience. I hope to see you there...

Bob

Originally Posted by KJung

I will actually... TC115 Composite Compact with the Aguilar TH500 and the Alleva LM. I'm subbing, so will be scufflin' a bit, but come on out.

Villa Farotto in the bar area, close to the Chesterfield Airport way out West. Friday, 8-12. Hunt me down on break. I've played the room before..... not a great sounding room, but a fun gig. The group is pop/jazz.... everything from Earth, Wind and Fire to Steely Dan to Metheny to Lady Gaga. God help me

[KJung]

Originally Posted by RColie

Awesome! Thanks Ken. I use a TC115 but would love to hear one in the audience. I hope to see you there...

Bob

Look forward to meeting you if you make it out!

[basscooker]

slightly off, but as i read through here, i see brainstorming ideas being bouced about, so i wanted to throw out some thoughts.

RE: gillcloth; using a flat-rolled expanded metal grill may allow for adhesive to be sufficient for fabric, so there's no messing with building a frame to stretch it on.

RE: multi-use; i see from reading the various threads that these new designs take about everything you put into them well. have the new designs and drivers brought us to the point where the application no longer matters? what i mean is, are we to the point where having a handful of one of these newer boxes can cover all the instruments, monitoring and mains, without having to buy specifically mi cabs, pa cabs, monitors, etc...

RE: cabs for heads with huge dimensions; would it be so bad to have a little more bulk, considering the gains being made in weight? it works a litte backwards, yes, but i think it'll be worth prototyping. some guys are just plain and simply not giving up their big tube heads, but would also love to have one of these cabs. would a diagonally aligned 2x12 allow for the extra width, but help keep the bulky-factor in check? maybe even a 2x15 square? there's other stuff in play with alignments like that, i'm sure. that was just a thought.

well those are some of the things this thread put in my head. grat looking stuff, btw, i'd sure love to give one a test-drive. any tbers in cincy have a tc cab they'd like to offer up for a go? i'll trade for a go on the ampro rig

[Chef]

I don't want bigger cabs; thanks.
If I were a big tube head user; I'd either be ok with overhand, or, put the head on a stand or something.
I'd wager big tube head users are a small percentage of players these days.

Better to have a "wide cab option" than forcing the rest of us into bigger cabs.
IMO.

[Saluki]

Originally Posted by KJung

I will actually... TC115 Composite Compact with the Aguilar TH500 and the Alleva LM. I'm subbing, so will be scufflin' a bit, but come on out.

Villa Farotto in the bar area, close to the Chesterfield Airport way out West. Friday, 8-12. Hunt me down on break. I've played the room before..... not a great sounding room, but a fun gig. The group is pop/jazz.... everything from Earth, Wind and Fire to Steely Dan to Metheny to Lady Gaga. God help me

Dang..I will be in Chesterfield on Saturday not Friday. Going to the Rams gme on Sunday with the kids. Maybe cathc you and Bob next time.

[anderbass]

Originally Posted by rpsands

The hathor has a much more tame low end than the normal TC cabs but I think it's a bit more than a typical sealed box - especially since it doesn't handle power the same way that a sealed box does (poorly). Can add in a lot more lows if you want.

That's your prospective...

Here's mine:

I agree the Hathor is much more tame in the low end; because it's design just naturally rolls off those super deep-lows that simply end up cluttering the band-mix & competing with kick drum frequencies.

While I thought your TC115 sounded awesome, I did not like the way it got all boomy/MUCH-LOUDER while playing several of the lower register notes on my 4-string. I'd imagine I could have done some EQ-tweaking to help remedy this fault, but I've simply come to expect a cab to give a fairly even volume/heft/feel all the way from my open-E, on up to my upper register G-string notes. That's exactly what my Hathor and NV610 does, without the need to resort to radical EQ/tone knob changes for different rooms and stages. I dont want to constantly have to adjust my string attack or change my near-flat amp settings from room to room, I want plug and play gear. And If that comes with the side-effect of sacrificing super-deep lows, thats just an added bonus for me...

PS: And hey, until you've gigged a Bergantino NV610 with like 10 different rock bands, and on like 50 different stages, (like I have) dont be too quick to assume all sealed cabs handle power poorly...

[rpsands]

Sorry what I mean by poorly is that excursion increases in a different way in response to power in a sealed box vs a ported box.

When you port a box you gain some power handling down low by magic