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11-27-2012, 08:44 PM
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11-28-2012, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by IntrepidCellist I have the Concorde II or III, can't remember. Built like an absolute truck, despite looking spindly. You get what you pay for. | I use the Concorde III for my smaller cabs, and it is great. Perfect for a single 112 or 210, and really small. The Super600 is for my larger cabs (Thunderchild115 and Berg AE212). Again, mostly matters if you are more of a freelancer with difficult load ins. If I was playing mostly clubs with parking lots attached, not much of a need for 'top of the line' with the stair walking, tie down, and super strength/quality.
The Rock and Roller carts are great if you have lots of heavy gear and also don't need to deal with curbs and steps. The Rock and Roller is heavier than my whole rig  If I had two 410's or something like that, perfect.
The Thunderchild Composite Compact with the Aguilar TH500 and the Super 600 cart is, to this point, the most amazingly schleppable 'big rig' I've ever owned. Lighter than most neo 112's, and it will keep up with a high quality 212 or 410 for the most part, with more true low end than most. Pretty amazing that I can do a large, loud gig with no PA support with a rig/head that has a combined weight of around 38 pounds! And, it sounds GOOD! REALLY GOOD. REALLY, REALLY GOOOOOOOD.
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11-28-2012, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jazzdogg LOL
For me, it's the tickle of nostalgia, redolent of youthful aspirations and sweat!  | Ha! It must be a second childhood for me. Or third. Or... Actually I stopped maturing at 12.  | 
11-28-2012, 08:25 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Massena NY | | | cab Any more news on the Hathor? I think only 2 people actually have one, until my pair are done anyway. | 
11-28-2012, 08:29 AM
|  | Registered User genz benz artist | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: locustland, ca | | Quote:
Originally Posted by KJung Pretty amazing that I can do a large, loud gig with no PA support with a rig/head that has a combined weight of around 38 pounds! And, it sounds GOOD! REALLY GOOD. REALLY, REALLY GOOOOOOOD. | the golden age of bass gear. | 
11-28-2012, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by KJung Pretty amazing that I can do a large, loud gig with no PA support with a rig/head that has a combined weight of around 38 pounds! And, it sounds GOOD! REALLY GOOD. REALLY, REALLY GOOOOOOOD. | ...in a nutshell
... And my Shuttle 6.2 / Crazy 88 composite is more than 10 lbs lighter than that! Sounds great and covers all the small venues I do, with no PA support. 
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11-28-2012, 08:53 AM
|  | Registered User Endorsing Artist: FEA Labs, Jule Amps | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: los angeles, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by KJung I use the Concorde III for my smaller cabs, and it is great. Perfect for a single 112 or 210, and really small. The Super600 is for my larger cabs (Thunderchild115 and Berg AE212). Again, mostly matters if you are more of a freelancer with difficult load ins. If I was playing mostly clubs with parking lots attached, not much of a need for 'top of the line' with the stair walking, tie down, and super strength/quality. | I'll have to check them out. I have a lot of terrible load-ins but work around it with the R6. I can do a curb but not stairs. If a TC212 or pair of 112s plus pedal board plus amp bag fits on the 600, that could fly.
yeah, more money to spend! I hate TB 
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11-28-2012, 08:56 AM
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11-28-2012, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by nostatic I'll have to check them out. I have a lot of terrible load-ins but work around it with the R6. I can do a curb but not stairs. If a TC212 or pair of 112s plus pedal board plus amp bag fits on the 600, that could fly.
yeah, more money to spend! I hate TB  |  The only downside to the Kart-a-bag carts is that the 'shelf' is reasonably small. So, the Concourse III works best with small cabs and cabs with a shallow (under 15" front to back) profile. The Super600 is good out to about 16" or 17" with the tie downs, even though the shelf is a bit narrower. Never been an issue for me, but deep cabs (18" or whatever) would be a problem IMO.
For context, the TC112 works perfectly on the Concourse III. For two 112's or the TC212, it would be the Super 600 (primarily for height). For the TC115, the Super 600 works great (due to the depth of the TC115)
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11-28-2012, 10:05 AM
|  | Registered User genz benz artist | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: locustland, ca | | Quote:
Originally Posted by nostatic I'll have to check them out. I have a lot of terrible load-ins but work around it with the R6. I can do a curb but not stairs. If a TC212 or pair of 112s plus pedal board plus amp bag fits on the 600, that could fly.
yeah, more money to spend! I hate TB  | i can show you my 800 when i come over to check out yer new cabs ;-) | 
11-28-2012, 10:16 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Manhattan | | | Yeah, the Concorde III with a TH500 and a (first production run) TC112 (converted to AF) + Pedaltrain Nano on top + bass on back makes gigging and jamming in New York super easy. Everything except the bass goes on the cart, and it's narrow enough to fit between subway turnstiles, plus durable and sturdy enough to survive stairs, curbs, and uneven sidewalks. It's possible to easily carry too if necessary.
I also use the Concorde when hauling pieces of gear to and from the post office! | 
11-28-2012, 10:44 AM
|  | Smile more, ok? Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine Moderator | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbia MO | | | very simlar to the magnacart, it would seem
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11-28-2012, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by foderaman | Not a bad little guy and at a pretty good price. Lets break it down.
Holds 125KG
1 kilogram = 2.20462262 pounds
2.20462262 X 125= roughly 275.58 pounds
L16 is about 25 dollars. Pretty cheap.
Over 10 years? My old Rock and roller has seen better days. Changed all the wheels and starting to fall apart. Got to get me something soon. Also its heavy putting it in my truck after a night. This seems pretty amazing to last 10 years. Good buy.
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11-28-2012, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Chef very simlar to the magnacart, it would seem | I like the extended bottom.
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11-28-2012, 05:12 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Troy.IL | | I think its a little higher than that!Actually there about 130 I think is what i paid that long ago and there kind of hard to find.The extended lip works out great and compared to some of the others out there it is a lot heavier duty.I couple of guy I have played with over the years saw mine and got cheaper ones and when they compared there comment was theres where like toys compared to the one I have.LOL I think I even saw them reviewed in Bass Player Mag years ago but really the cheaper ones get the job done. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bassist30 Not a bad little guy and at a pretty good price. Lets break it down.
Holds 125KG
1 kilogram = 2.20462262 pounds
2.20462262 X 125= roughly 275.58 pounds
L16 is about 25 dollars. Pretty cheap.
Over 10 years? My old Rock and roller has seen better days. Changed all the wheels and starting to fall apart. Got to get me something soon. Also its heavy putting it in my truck after a night. This seems pretty amazing to last 10 years. Good buy. | | 
11-28-2012, 05:22 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Manhattan | | | My only complaint with those (aside from the lack of stair rails, which is a dealbreaker for me) is that you have to hold it at a really acute angle to keep the cart from tipping forwards. | 
11-28-2012, 05:43 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Troy.IL | | | My hope is with my Composite TC212 it will be just short of 40 pounds and the cart say 5 pounds so I can lift the cart and cab at the same time going up stairs if I have to ? | 
11-28-2012, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jnewmark I like the extended bottom. |
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11-28-2012, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by foderaman |
That's the one I used to have. Kindof like a really well made and more durable Magna Cart. It got ripped off by a wedding photographer.The wheels are big enough that stairs aren't a problem. I used to have the same one as Ken but I liked this one a lot more. VERY easy to roll. Never missed the stair rails. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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