AudioKinesis Cabs V!!!! - Page 28

kringle77 · #**541** 12-04-2012, 09:57 AM

Probably my favorite over all tone has come from years of running a pair of vertically stacked eden d210xlt cabs but, due to some injuries I just couldn't shlep them around anymore so I've been on the hunt ever since. My nv610 is big and heavy but, is still easier to move than the edens. Im really hoping the hathors give me some of what Im looking for. The way Tombowlus describes the mids and growl has me hopeful.

tombowlus · #**542** 12-04-2012, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kringle77

Can anyone (the 3 who have tried one) compare the hathor to any more common cabs like a bergantino ae series, eden xlt series, carvin ls1503, etc?

I've been slacking on the Hathor comparisons, I know (Phil Maneri still has my TC112AF and TC115AF), but I'll see what I can do.

**Chef** · #**543** 12-04-2012, 10:03 AM

I'm really glad you like it so very well;
and;
it just goes to show,
just cause it wasn't my thing,
doesn't mean it's not still a really, really great thing!!!!

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Originally Posted by staccatogrowl

Here is my report on an AudioKinesis Thunderchild (TC) 212AF. ..........

In conclusion, I am a very happy AudioKinesis bass cabinet owner. The TC 212 cabinet is now my all-time favorite. I am grateful for the technology of today, the design expertise and quality build by Duke LeJeune, the Talkbass forum, and its moderator “Chef.” Thank you all!

otto B · #**544** 12-04-2012, 12:08 PM

I bought the Puma900, love the amp, but I think that having a clean sounding cab and a crystal clear amp it’s just missing something, don’t get me wrong it sound awesome now, but I sometimes think it would sound much better with a little color like the Mark bass amp in order to get the full character of the cab. It just hard to find a Amp that has a punchy lows now that Mark Bass F500 is out of the market.

otto B · #**545** 12-04-2012, 12:10 PM

Hey Duke would you ever consider to build a Audiokinsis Bass amp?

KJung · #**546** 12-04-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by otto B

I bought the Puma900, love the amp, but I think that having a clean sounding cab and a crystal clear amp it’s just missing something, don’t get me wrong it sound awesome now, but I sometimes think it would sound much better with a little color like the Mark bass amp in order to get the full character of the cab. It just hard to find a Amp that has a punchy lows now that Mark Bass F500 is out of the market.

I'm having pretty good luck with my Aguilar TH500. It is a bit 'dirtier' than the LMII/III, and not as even, but it HAMMERS, and the semi-parametric mid is quite useful with the TC cabs. That being said, it is more 'fat and warm and old school' than 'clear, pure and transparent'. LOVE it with the P Bass, and it really does put a surprising 'pillow under the band' with the little TC115. It roughs up the top of the TC cabs a bit, which is a good thing IMO with the P.

The F500 brings out more of the studio monitor vibe, which I love with my J. The Glockenklang is too much of a good thing for me with the TC115... big, open, wide, smooth, clean pure meets... well.... big, open, wide, smooth and clean

will33 · #**547** 12-04-2012, 02:52 PM

Chiming in here to give Duke a Texas-size high five for that 1512 cab. I've been modeling and messing with 2-ways using guitar drivers for mids and highs. If I make them the footprint of my big Classic400 tube amp, the cabs get too big and I have to use styrofoam or something to artificially shrink the box, especially when modeling sealed 15's and even some ported ones. I never even thought to mount the drivers one behind the other and honestly didn't even know if you could without causing some sort of interference between the 2.

Brilliant work Duke. I assume with the highs leading the lows it sounds nice, at least from what I've read on stuff like how our brain interpets time delays, etc.

Mike Arnopol · #**548** 12-04-2012, 03:24 PM

I think that the Tonehammer is a perfect combination with the TC115. Like Ken says---where it errs seems to compliment the TC115 in a very musical way.

otto B · #**549** 12-04-2012, 08:53 PM

You all got me thinking how would it sound my TC212 with the Aguilar. Hmmmmm. Does anyone have a You tube clip of the TC with the aguilar

IntrepidCellist · #**550** 12-04-2012, 08:59 PM

I do, but it's also a live Youtube vid, with an overdriven VT Bass in the signal, in a heavier context that I'm not sure many people here play... the Aguilar by itself is less clangy and "growly," and the VT Bass by itself is thin and a little scooped on that setting. Together they compliment each other nicely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NalbBAugfZA

MrCool84 · #**551** 12-04-2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by IntrepidCellist

I do, but it's also a live Youtube vid, with an overdriven VT Bass in the signal, in a heavier context that I'm not sure many people here play... the Aguilar by itself is less clangy and "growly," and the VT Bass by itself is thin and a little scooped on that setting. Together they compliment each other nicely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NalbBAugfZA

Awesome yo!! The bass was it in that song for sure. Great Tone. Ruff but articulate. Very clear with the perfect amount of grunt.

nomatic · #**552** 12-05-2012, 06:05 AM

I am digging the TH with my composite TC 115...
I tried some of the cleaner heads like the puma and Mark
but the Aguilar sounded better in combo....

kringle77 · #**553** 12-05-2012, 06:45 AM

Before putting in an order for a pair of Hathor cabs, I was really torn between them and a pair of baer ml112 cabs. I think that with my goals in mind, the Hathors were a good choice. I wanted light, high output cabs, growly mids, clear but not harsh treble, focused sound. The 1544 should do that better than anything else.

rpsands · #**554** 12-05-2012, 08:29 AM

The Hathors will probably have a more focused low end with Duke's tuning changes, and they're going to be noticeably louder without a doubt, in similar size.

Bassist30 · #**555** 12-05-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by otto B

I bought the Puma900, love the amp, but I think that having a clean sounding cab and a crystal clear amp it’s just missing something, don’t get me wrong it sound awesome now, but I sometimes think it would sound much better with a little color like the Mark bass amp in order to get the full character of the cab. It just hard to find a Amp that has a punchy lows now that Mark Bass F500 is out of the market.

I know these are in a different price range than the TH 500 but you may want to consider the Thunderfunk 550B. I have seen them used for around 700. Not to heavy at 20 pounds. I played it with the 750a also but I like the 550b better with it. When the limiter on it gives a very tight bottom. A four band semi parametric and Timbre control warms up the amp nicely. A nice combination with a TC15.
With minimal tweaking you can get a very close Aguilar DB750 without the immense power but lighter. But if weight is an issue than the Th 500 would probably work well for you.

nostatic · #**556** 12-05-2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by otto B

I bought the Puma900, love the amp, but I think that having a clean sounding cab and a crystal clear amp it’s just missing something, don’t get me wrong it sound awesome now, but I sometimes think it would sound much better with a little color like the Mark bass amp in order to get the full character of the cab. It just hard to find a Amp that has a punchy lows now that Mark Bass F500 is out of the market.

Have you messed with the taste and eq? Rolling the taste clockwise doesn't give crystal clear any more.

PDGood · #**557** 12-05-2012, 11:20 AM

I had a chance to play with an Ampeg Portaflex through the TC115AF and that's a nice combo at a very reasonable price.

J.Wolf · #**558** 12-05-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nomatic

I am digging the TH with my composite TC 115...
I tried some of the cleaner heads like the puma and Mark
but the Aguilar sounded better in combo....

I agree, the Puma sounds great with other cabs, but I think that with the incredible transparency and neutrality that the TC115AF has, that little bit of furry midrange in the TH500 helps the sound punch through in a very musical way.

Your rig sounded killer the other night man, the low B string on the Alien Audio was incredible through the TH500/TC15

otto B · #**559** 12-05-2012, 06:55 PM

I heard the TH500 is mostly old school sound. Is that true? I just not much in the old school sound. I just want a amp that gives great tight lows and clean highs with a touch of mids.

Hollow Man · #**560** 12-06-2012, 03:48 AM

Based on your description, I probably wouldn't recommend the TH500 for you. The TH500 has a fat, warm low end and low mids. The high mids are fairly present (though less so than the low mids), and the high end is somewhat attenuated.

'Old school' wouldn't be the first term I'd use to describe it, but I guess it does lean that way. It's got a ton of low-end punch, but it can sound a bit tubby in some environments in certain cabs. In addition, with the way the highs are rolled off, it would be hard to call the top end 'clean'.

Based on my amp experience, the heads that I'd say come close to meeting your description would be the original 2U Puma500 (and to a lesser extent, the newer Puma900, which I know you already have), a LMII/III, or a Thunderfunk 750.