Avatar 2x10 cabinet?

[Scott549]

I am currently using a Backline 600 amp with an Avater 1x12 and a Hartke 1x15. The Hartke provides a good low end but not much high end at all. I'm thinking of replacing the Hartke with an Avatar 2x10. I think that might make the whole setup more balanced. But I don't want to give up too much low end. Anyone have thoughts on this?

Thanks.

[Rickengeezer]

I use an Avatar 210 with an Avatar 115. My personal opinion is that the 210 doesn't provide enough low end by itself, although that might have something to do with my playing style, which is fairly aggressive with a pick. If I'm in a situation where I'm only using one cab, its the 115. But I've heard good things about the Avatar 112 so I'm not sure if it might be able to handle the low end better than the 210.

[craig.p]

I don't think that 2x10 cab is going to give you any significant improvement in high end.

Also, each of those two tens will be doing half the duty of the twelve.

If you like Avatar, and you're looking for more high end, consider dumping both current cabs and bringing in a TB153, which will eat your proposed (1x12)+(2x10) setup's lunch and pop the bag.

[Scott549]

The 112 does not handle the low end very well by itself. I am wondering about the 112 and 210 together, though - there's lots of talk about the total speaker volume being a big determining factor.

[craig.p]

And by the way, get the four ohm version so you can hit it with the Backline's full three hundred watts. (Unless you plan on upgrading amps any time soon and going to something more powerful.)

[craig.p]

Scott, the other problem with that configuration is the mixing of different cabs/drivers in the same frequency range. You might luck out, but then again you might not. Plenty of info here on that matter...

[JTE]

I've got an Avatar SB-112 and an Avatar B210, both neo. I drive them with an Eden WT-400. While it's a great sounding rig, there are times I think I'd prefer either two of the 1x12 OR two of the 2x10. It sounds much better to me when I stack them vertically so I have a vertical line of speakers. There's something about the mids of the Avatar SB-112 that I really like, but I like the openness of the 2x10. Note that this is about the specific Avatar cabs, not a blanket description of 10" or 12" speakers.

Since I've seldom played a 15" speaker cabinet I like if I were in your position and looking to get a new speaker cabinet now, I'd either get another SB-112, or the new TB153.

John

[sbassface]

I used to run a 4 ohm avatar 1x12 with an old carvin 4ohm 2x10 for an amp that handled a 2 ohm load (Peavey Nitrobass) Loved the sound! However I would want the speakers to get more power. Perhaps you could look at a 2x10 that has a lower wattage handling to make it more even between the two cabs. Hope I'm not giving you wrong information here. Fred

[craig.p]

> Hope I'm not giving you wrong information here.

You are, but we forgive you, Fred, LOL.

If he wants to mix a 1x12 and a 2x10, which I still discourage, then he ought at least to make sure the 2x10 cab is a few dB more efficient than the 1x12, with even that being only a band-aid, except then he's confronted with the Satanic realm of SPECIFICATIONS (and what to believe or not to believe).

[sbassface]

Oh, haha, thanks Craig, for chiming in.

[Scott549]

Thanks for all the good info.

[DWBass]

Originally Posted by Scott549

The 112 does not handle the low end very well by itself. I am wondering about the 112 and 210 together, though - there's lots of talk about the total speaker volume being a big determining factor.

I ran an Avatar 2x10+1x12 rig (older non Neo speakers) for 7 years! I had quite enough bottom and top end! I got nothing but compliments at every gig! I play a lot of funk, r&b, soul, pop, latin music. Music that requires a good amount of bass in the mix. If you can get the cabs with deltas and kappas, do it. The neos don't do it for me.

[AwkwardLoudness]

Originally Posted by craig.p

consider dumping both current cabs and bringing in a TB153

I concur. craig.p took the words right out of my keyboard.