Baer Amplification; Part 2!!

[GRoberts]

Originally Posted by Smallequestrian

I liked the sound of it a lot, but did you find you run out of clean headroom pretty quickly? I think it does and awesome rock sound, but it seemed to start breaking up earlier than I would have liked.

That head made me look for an Orange-like overdrive pedal though which has made me pretty happy.

I did two gigs this past weekend with the Orange Terror TB500h. Yeah, it imparts a degree of grind, but I felt it was plenty clean enough, yet with some old school vintage attitude. I gigged with the Input gain at noon at Master Vol at 9 o'Clock. (Into a 4 ohm load)

[KJung]

Originally Posted by GRoberts

You just described 'exactly what I am getting from the Orange Terror TB500h. .....WithOUT having to use a pedal.

And Ken's post about the Faital driver extending quite high and getting meatier highs? ..This meets with my favor quite nicely too!

Hey Gary,

Since we are going in-depth on the ML112, one other comment. I've found most cabs aren't impacted by 'breaking in' very much. The ML112 is though, and will actually sound a bit more 'bright and tight' right out of the box. About an hour or two of playing will open up the low end enough so that the whole cab becomes nicely balanced.

I found this to happen on my Berg AE212 also. Most cabs, I hardly notice.

Just FYI (and also for others buying Roger's cab). Don't 'freak out' if the cab sounds quite aggressive right out of the box. Play it for an hour or two before you make any decisions on if you like it or not.

[nordyboy]

Originally Posted by KJung

Hey Gary,

Since we are going in-depth on the ML112, one other comment. I've found most cabs aren't impacted by 'breaking in' very much. The ML112 is though, and will actually sound a bit more 'bright and tight' right out of the box. About an hour or two of playing will open up the low end enough so that the whole cab becomes nicely balanced.

I found this to happen on my Berg AE212 also. Most cabs, I hardly notice.

Just FYI (and also for others buying Roger's cab). Don't 'freak out' if the cab sounds quite aggressive right out of the box. Play it for an hour or two before you make any decisions on if you like it or not.

Ken you are so right, I would say that having broken both of my cabs in seperately, they both now sound very warm and full, I would say they had about 4-5hrs each at a decent volume before they really settled down.
Thanks for all your posts on these cabs by the way, it was your initial comments that got me interested, Roger should be paying you commission

[KJung]

Originally Posted by nordyboy

Ken you are so right, I would say that having broken both of my cabs in seperately, they both now sound very warm and full, I would say they had about 4-5hrs each at a decent volume before they really settled down.
Thanks for all your posts on these cabs by the way, it was your initial comments that got me interested, Roger should be paying you commission

I would think what Roger is really thinking is 'well, if he likes the darn things so much, why doesn't he shut up for once and buy one' (I probably will, even though I need another cab like a hole in the head).

If that ML212 was just a tad lighter, I'd be ALL over that. Just a bit too much for me at this point. I tell you what, that cab is going to KILL if Roger decides to move ahead with it.

[B String]

Originally Posted by KJung

I would think what Roger is really thinking is 'well, if he likes the darn things so much, why doesn't he shut up for once and buy one' (I probably will, even though I need another cab like a hole in the head).

If that ML212 was just a tad lighter, I'd be ALL over that. Just a bit too much for me at this point. I tell you what, that cab is going to KILL if Roger decides to move ahead with it.

Ken. Up until just recently, I've probably spent more time with the ML112 than just about anyone and I STILL don't own one!
Its a combination of having too much gear and not enough storage space. Also, I want to remain married to my wife.

As I'm sure most of you have experienced, Roger is about as good a guy to deal with as it gets. I've rarely seen anyone in the biz who wants to get it right as much as Roger.

[Eublet]

Still thinking I want the ML212...that's the ONLY reason I haven't bought the 112 already. And yeah, you can tell Roger is a good guy. I like associating with people who want to do good work.

[Chef]

The one thing the 212 won't do, is "get tall" like the 2xML112 stacked vertical.
I'm a huge fan of that form factor.

[KJung]

Originally Posted by Chef

The one thing the 212 won't do, is "get tall" like the 2xML112 stacked vertical.
I'm a huge fan of that form factor.

Given the nice nearfield spread of those midrange drivers, you would never notice the difference in height IMO. And, as long as you have a mid driver loaded cab, might as well have the two mid-drivers in the optimal configuration (close to one another). Minor point there!

That being said, 70 pounds is too much for me at this point.

[Chef]

Personal pref.
I like taller.

[GRoberts]

Originally Posted by Chef

Personal pref.
I like taller.

I like redheads. Oh wait ....wrong context. ...Still, I like Redheads. So there.

[greenrositti]

Who am I to argue? Tall redheads are fine with me!

I happen to also agree with Chef. The 2 x ml112 configuration goes plenty deep and it is so easy to move. I can still do a long haul in one schlep, and I don't break my back getting them downstairs to the car from my 3rd floor flat! Plus there's the added bonus of being able to just take one when it's small hit.

[nordyboy]

Hey my cab covers don't have the logo, they look great, jealous now

[IntrepidCellist]

Originally Posted by GRoberts

I like redheads. Oh wait ....wrong context. ...Still, I like Redheads. So there.

Not for me, thanks

(on a side note, how the hell does SWR get away with selling a 2x10 combo for $1700?!?)

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by IntrepidCellist

(on a side note, how the hell does SWR get away with selling a 2x10 combo for $1700?!?)

It cost them a lot to scoop all the mids out of the amp.

[R Baer]

Originally Posted by KJung

If that ML212 was just a tad lighter, I'd be ALL over that. Just a bit too much for me at this point. I tell you what, that cab is going to KILL if Roger decides to move ahead with it.

We should be taking order for the ML212 here in the next week, or two!

[murphy]

Do you guys think the 212 cab will be a good one for reggae?
And Blues ,Funk, RnB?
i often do not have PA for the bass

[R Baer]

Originally Posted by murphy

Do you guys think the 212 cab will be a good one for reggae?
And Blues ,Funk, RnB?
i often do not have PA for the bass

All you have to do is turn down the treble a bit and you should be good to go. Of course the woofer in the ML115 will let you have low end for days, so that's an option when it comes out.

[Tugboat]

Originally Posted by R Baer

All you have to do is turn down the treble a bit and you should be good to go. Of course the woofer in the ML115 will let you have low end for days, so that's an option when it comes out.

Hey Roger, how long do you expect until ML115's will be ready to go?

[R Baer]

Originally Posted by Tugboat

Hey Roger, how long do you expect until ML115's will be ready to go?

We should be taking orders by NAMM. Just waiting on grills to come in.

[nordyboy]

Taking both ml112's out this weekend, must remember to apologize to sound engineer in advance!