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12-03-2012, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice  And 30 years overdue. Not to take anything away from Alex, but all he's doing is using acoustical engineering techniques that have long been known by every segment of the loudspeaker design community except the electric bass industry. What he's using here is called a .5 alignment, and the fact that it has a name is quite telling. | Glad to see you on here, Bill.
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12-06-2012, 07:19 PM
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12-06-2012, 07:58 PM
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12-07-2012, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by astack Sasquatch IS real! | Sweet! I'm really looking forward to the reports on this cab.
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12-07-2012, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GregC Sweet! I'm really looking forward to the reports on this cab. | +1, subbed.
I love everything about my NV610, but the 69er is way cool idea and I'm really curious as to how it performs in the real world. |
12-07-2012, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuzzbass I love everything about my NV610, but the 69er is way cool idea and I'm really curious as to how it performs in the real world. | With you 100% on this. |
12-07-2012, 01:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: chincoteague island, va | | | Whats the major differences between the nv610 and the 69er? there both sealed 610's right w/o a tweeter right? Fuzzbass said "the 69er is a way cool idea". Im sorry if im ignorant but could u elaborate?
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12-07-2012, 01:23 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: boston, ma | | | The 69er uses a .5 alignment and crossover to maximize frequency response and mid-range dispersion while still trying to nail the tone of the flatback 8x10. |
12-07-2012, 01:36 PM
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12-07-2012, 01:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: chincoteague island, va | | | i know what a crossover is but .5 alignment is not registering. But i think what ur sayin is its gonna act like a fearful/bigtwin in regards to frequency response and mid range dispersion and sound like Flat back 810. Ok so say it does this and u put an svt on top of this baby.....it will sound super close (How close?) to the "classic/vintage" svt/810 rig? i still dont get what the extra benefits would be. it will handle drop tunings better because of frequency response? Will it eliminate the downfalls of the classic rig?and what are those downfalls? sorry again for being ignorant. Ill go back to there website and reread there 69er description page and if there is some suggested readings i appreciate it.
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12-07-2012, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MrCool84 i know what a crossover is but .5 alignment is not registering. | Half the speakers (along one column) are low passed so that the mids aren't creating interference. This is how you get better dispersion.
Basically it will sound like a flatback 8x10 and sound better in the audience without the deadspots and uneven sound associated with paired 10's.
Versus a modern 8x10? I can't really say. I have a flatback and they sound much smoother, great in the mids, fat bottom. I think the newer cabs - most newer cabs and speakers in general - sound too stiff. This is supposed to account for that, I suppose. |
12-07-2012, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by andrew Barefaced cab is about 40 lbs. lighter too. | yea weight was defs a downfall. so it will be just as loud with 2 less speakers?
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12-07-2012, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MrCool84 yea weight was defs a downfall. so it will be just as loud with 2 less speakers? | I meant 40 lbs. lighter than the Bergantino NV610. It's probably 80-100 lbs. lighter than an Ampeg 810. |
12-07-2012, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by andrew I meant 40 lbs. lighter than the Bergantino NV610. It's probably 80-100 lbs. lighter than an Ampeg 810. | 78.  |
12-07-2012, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by coreyfyfe Half the speakers (along one column) are low passed so that the mids aren't creating interference. This is how you get better dispersion.
Basically it will sound like a flatback 8x10 and sound better in the audience without the deadspots and uneven sound associated with paired 10's.
Versus a modern 8x10? I can't really say. I have a flatback and they sound much smoother, great in the mids, fat bottom. I think the newer cabs - most newer cabs and speakers in general - sound too stiff. This is supposed to account for that, I suppose. | Gotcha. thanks man. Yea these cabs are makin my wheels turn. I have a 100t id like to run it with. ive never played thru a sealed cab before.
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12-07-2012, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by andrew I meant 40 lbs. lighter than the Bergantino NV610. It's probably 80-100 lbs. lighter than an Ampeg 810. | WOW
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12-07-2012, 02:17 PM
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12-07-2012, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MrCool84 yea weight was defs a downfall. so it will be just as loud with 2 less speakers? | Could easily be, yes. In addition to the .5 alignment, it uses different, little higher output drivers on the low side, so you can reach the same spl with less of them, and uses a highpassed guitar driver for the topend extension and character. Remember the original flatbacks were pretty mich guitar drivers. That's why they needed so many to handle the 300 watt bass amp. |
12-07-2012, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rodl2005 If it's 78lbs, it's 20lbs lighter than my old NV610 | According to their website it's 59 lbs, not 78. |
12-07-2012, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by andrew According to their website it's 59 lbs, not 78. | 78 lbs lighter than a flatback 8x10 | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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