Bassman 2-15

[Count Bassie]

Simply this: What would you load this (I think mid-80's) cab with? Rock-box for a club-type bass rig...

Thanks.

I have a TL606 2x15 cab loaded with Eminence Neodymium BassLite 2015s. Sounds incredible! I believe the mid 80s and later Fender 2x15 cabs are quite similar, and would do well with the Neo speakers. Reduces weight as well.

[will33]

Basslite's a good choice. A lot of guys will say kappalite3015's and they are the best choice as far as getting the most out of your rig.

Rock box, medium size gigs is about all there it to go on. How much amp? What bass/playing style? Overall tone goals. Do you want the cabinet to color the sound or more faithfully reproduce what you put into it? Your bass/amp/pedals/whatever else.

If you want lowmid punch and old school sound and lows that sound low there are plenty of good, heavy magnet speakers out there. When comparing all these 15's, throw an eminence legend 15B into the mix as well as delta LF's or EV 15B's, JBL's and some others.

Need to be more detailed on your requirements to get good info.

[Count Bassie]

2015s? Innerestin'...

[Count Bassie]

Originally Posted by will33

Basslite's a good choice. A lot of guys will say kappalite3015's and they are the best choice as far as getting the most out of your rig.

Rock box, medium size gigs is about all there it to go on. How much amp? What bass/playing style? Overall tone goals. Do you want the cabinet to color the sound or more faithfully reproduce what you put into it? Your bass/amp/pedals/whatever else.

If you want lowmid punch and old school sound and lows that sound low there are plenty of good, heavy magnet speakers out there. When comparing all these 15's, throw an eminence legend 15B into the mix as well as delta LF's or EV 15B's, JBL's and some others.

Need to be more detailed on your requirements to get good info.

Okay, fine idea. I hadn't seen your post yet, Will. In as concise terms as I can conjure, here's where I'm at:

An A.M.P. BH-420 head, Squier Bronco short-scale bass, stock, with a nice set of flats, and this cab are the hopeful combo for a punk/rock/country garage-borne vibe. Think Supersuckers meets Booker T and the MGs...

Volume is desirable, but not necessarily King- if it were I'd hold out for something else, probably.

Style of music is loosely described above. I'm into a pretty driving bass line, and I'll be beating the speakers up if I can get away with it. I'm a pretty dynamically aware player, but I play pretty hard sometimes... and a little color is fine. I play what I call "firewood with strings on it", and am not a bass-playing audiophile! I want the speakers to reproduce what my hands play.

(EDIT) Oh yeah- I have also:

Big Muff, bass-modded; Electric Mistress (oldie, a DeLuxe); Ashdown Dual-Band Compressor for bass.

[JimmyM]

all the speaker guys are going to laugh at me again, but i see nothing wrong with a set of beta 15's or delta 15a's. they're the most old school speaker eminence makes. of course you could spring for a couple old jbl d or k140's too and they would rule.

i don't know, just throwing out a couple alternatives to neos that sound old school.

Originally Posted by Count Bassie

2015s? Innerestin'...

They were the first of the BassLites (got 'em in '03 me thinks)... The 2515 would be my current choice, if I had to get 'em now...

I tried Deltas in this cab... If I had to describe 'em, they'd be "too polite."

Kappas are very similar to the EVs I originally had, and will take anything you throw at 'em. Pretty tough speakers, with all 'round good sound (same story with the 12s).

[Sundogue]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

all the speaker guys are going to laugh at me again, but i see nothing wrong with a set of beta 15's or delta 15a's. they're the most old school speaker eminence makes. of course you could spring for a couple old jbl d or k140's too and they would rule.

i don't know, just throwing out a couple alternatives to neos that sound old school.

Nah...we're not going to laugh at you Jimmy. We all know you only have 300 watts to throw at a cab.

I'd recommend the Basslite 2515 as well. It is one tough bastard of a neo that is not called a Kappalite. It does as well in small boxes as it does in larger ones. I (like the OP) have been known to beat the hell out of my bass and lay a heavy bass line causing my speakers to take quite a bit of abuse at times. Most all bass speakers excell at one end or the other. If they handle deep lows, they suck in the upper mids and highs. If they handle those upper mids and highs well, they don't handle the lows well. The Basslites don't go real low, nor real high...but for the meat of bass frequencies (80Hz to 2kHz) they are some pretty killer, albeit not very popular, bass speakers that have a fairly decent xmax and power rating.

[Count Bassie]

I think we're on a general groove here. I appreciate the wide scope of opinion too, and 'old-school ethic' is definitely where I'm leaning.

Sundogue's mention of 80 Hz-2KHz seems a reasonable range of strength- I'm getting plenty of heft from that region in the Trace-Bag End rig I use for gig$ (that's the modern, slick jig; this one's going to be a little 'closer to the earth' in my mind).

Thanks for the chiming-in guys, I'll be monitoring... and pricing speakers...

[Count Bassie]

Well it appears that the Basslite C2515 only comes in 4 ohms. Here's the specs on the Eminence site.

I could load the pair (did I mention there are two) for a total of 4 ohms- after alternate wiring- but that's going to get expensive for my $$-flow.

Maybe two of these drivers, in one box at 8 ohms, would be alright anyhow?

[Sundogue]

Originally Posted by Count Bassie

Well it appears that the Basslite C2515 only comes in 4 ohms. Here's the specs on the Eminence site.

I could load the pair (did I mention there are two) for a total of 4 ohms- after alternate wiring- but that's going to get expensive for my $$-flow.

Maybe two of these drivers, in one box at 8 ohms, would be alright anyhow?

Yes, they only come in 4 ohms. If you want two, then it's either 2 ohms or 8 ohms as far as wiring them up. I have two in my mini 215 and it's wired up as a 2 ohm cab right now being powered by a Carvin BX1200. Loud as hell and my Carvin handles the 2 ohms just fine. I'll probably wire them up as an 8 ohm cab at some point...depending if I want to add another cab to the equation.

Don't fret over 4 or 8 ohms. Really, the difference between using 4 or 8 ohms is not all that noticeable. The Basslites are a pretty sensitive speaker at 98dB and two of the Basslites at 8 ohms would still get mighty loud.

[Count Bassie]

Originally Posted by Sundogue

...Don't fret over 4 or 8 ohms. Really, the difference between using 4 or 8 ohms is not all that noticeable. The Basslites are a pretty sensitive speaker at 98dB and two of the Basslites at 8 ohms would still get mighty loud.

Well isn't it like the idea that more speakers is a better way to move air than more power. Sounds good, I'm with it. If the gig-band does well this year I'll load 'em both for that hefty 4-ohm wall...

Thanks for all the help, everyone!

[Count Bassie]

So this might be stupid, but I'm going to ask because it's about something I actually have in my way here:

I have a pair of JBL "Sound Factor" PA mains, They're small 2-way enclosures with a horn and a 15 each, they go on stands, up in the air. The model # of the 15" driver is a M115-8A. It's a light-feeling, stamped-frame driver, 8 ohms. Wonder if it'd do for the Bassman 2-15 cab?

It'd just be until I could get a hand on a pair of something perhaps better, like those Basslites... I'd have to be sure to not beat them up either, as I'm going to want to put them back into the 2-way enclosures!

What do you guys think?

[Sundogue]

Originally Posted by Count Bassie

So this might be stupid, but I'm going to ask because it's about something I actually have in my way here:

I have a pair of JBL "Sound Factor" PA mains, They're small 2-way enclosures with a horn and a 15 each, they go on stands, up in the air. The model driver is a JBL M115-8A. It's a light-feeling, stamped-frame driver. Wonder if it'd do for the Bassman 2-15 cab? I have the pair, they're in good shpe.

It'd be until I could get a hand on a pair of something perhaps better... I'd have to be sure to not beat them up either, as I'm going to want to put them back into the 2-way enclosures.

What do you guys think?

If you are careful and have the time, it wouldn't hurt to experiment. I use cheap 4.5" and 6" stereo speakers in my 215/6 and 210/6 cabs that most people would probably think I'm crazy for using, much less trying.

Your main concern is what the speakers in the JBL mains are intended to handle. I'm all for experimentation. That's half the fun sometimes. But be careful in trying them out.

[Count Bassie]

Think I'll give it a run tomorrow night. The boxes are at the woodshop I'm doing some work at, and at the end of the chores tomorrow I can fart around with it...

I'll post afterwards, with results... / I gotta do what I gotta do!

[FuzzBoxVoodoo]

I have a old Peavey 215 loaded with a set of Eminence Legends and It sounds great in my opinion even in the upper notes,which could be from no insulation in the cab.

[Count Bassie]

215 or 215-D?

[FuzzBoxVoodoo]

I believe that it is the 215 as it isnt very deep,maybe 12 inches.
I can get you the outside dimensions if you are interested.
What I also really like about this cab is that it pairs up well almost evey other cab I have tried it with.

Originally Posted by Count Bassie

215 or 215-D?

[Count Bassie]

14" I think, yep it's a shallow box, but still a pretty good one. Don't know what it is about Peavey, but you can't deny it.