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11-24-2012, 08:57 PM
|  | Keepin' the Groove Alive ! | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stax 1966 | | | Battle of the 6L6's ! Tube guys ( or gals ) who have 6l6's for your power tubes, what brand are you using and why ? Recently got a Music man HD150 head which uses 4 6L6GS tubes and was wondering what brand will get me the best clean tone with the most headroom. I've been told that the phillips 7581A is the #$% for this high plate voltage head, but, man, are they expensive and hard to find a quad matched set. So give me some alternatives and why !
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11-24-2012, 09:21 PM
| | | | as far as new production tubes go, its hard to beat SED "winged-C" 6L6GC's - or are you looking exclusively for American NOS tubes? | 
11-24-2012, 09:32 PM
|  | Unregistered existentialist | | Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Denver, Colorado | | | Call Lord Valve at NBS Electronics in Denver. He'll tell you the straight poop.
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11-24-2012, 09:42 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lake Havasu City, Az USA | | | Yes to "winged C"s, but include in your options KT66's
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11-24-2012, 09:54 PM
|  | vintage bass nut John K Custom Basses | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA | | | alos keep in mind that the large bottle philips 6L6GC's are basically the same as 7581A's. | 
11-24-2012, 10:40 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | I'll tell you one I will never use again, and that's JJ's. I've had two pairs of JJ 6L6's, and the first set developed a crackle after 4 months, and the second set is new and one is already microphonic.
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11-24-2012, 10:45 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Elk River, MN. | | | TAD's have worked good for me.
Winged C's are good but for my money I'll take TAD's
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11-24-2012, 10:48 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | ruby tubes, came with the amp, sound great | 
11-24-2012, 11:01 PM
| | | | Ruby Tubes are just cheap Chinese tubes that have been rebranded. | 
11-24-2012, 11:16 PM
| | | | I've had consistent, good results with the JJ 6L6. I have a set in an Ampeg B-15N, and a Mesa 400+, which has 12 of them. | 
11-24-2012, 11:57 PM
| | | | Google "Eurotubes". Then call and talk to Bob. He's quick to tel you "I'm no tech" but he knows more about tubes than any three techs I've ever met. After your conversation he'll sell you a matched set and if you can make it to his place he'll install them and set the bias for you. | 
11-25-2012, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by James Judson Google "Eurotubes". Then call and talk to Bob. He's quick to tel you "I'm no tech" but he knows more about tubes than any three techs I've ever met. After your conversation he'll sell you a matched set and if you can make it to his place he'll install them and set the bias for you. | + 1 for Eurotubes - superior customer service. | 
11-25-2012, 12:11 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tasmania, Australia | | & only JJ tubes afaik. Fine if u want JJ's, but there are others .....
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11-25-2012, 05:52 AM
| | Registered User Bedford guitars | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: sheffield, uk | | Quote:
Originally Posted by B-string Yes to "winged C"s, but include in your options KT66's | I wouldn't recommend kt66's in high plate voltage scenarios.
Some proper 6ca7s would be nice though 
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11-25-2012, 06:43 AM
| | | How much do you want to spend? My preference is, whenever possible, go with NOS. This place has a nice quartet of GE's for $252. They do an excellent job of matching the tubes and do it at the operating voltage of your amp.
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11-25-2012, 07:14 AM
| | Registered User Proprietor Springvale Studios | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ipswich UK | | Hmm! Quote:
Originally Posted by beans-on-toast How much do you want to spend? My preference is, whenever possible, go with NOS. This place has a nice quartet of GE's for $252. They do an excellent job of matching the tubes and do it at the operating voltage of your amp. | The original tube designed by Mullard was the EL37, it's still the best 6l6
In my book.
As they used to say "Don't be a dullard, fit a Mullard". 
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11-25-2012, 07:17 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: valparaiso, in. | | | Always bought mine from Mesa Boogie as matched sets. 35 years with not one problem. | 
11-25-2012, 07:17 AM
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11-25-2012, 07:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nashville TN | | | It's hard to go wrong with the Sovtek tubes, maybe not the most glamorous of tubes but they have always worked well for me. I've also got a pair of new EH 6L6's and they sound great too.
I was not impressed with JJ's, they rattled too much.
Overall, I guess I've been unimpressed with any of the Chinese tubes. And I'm pretty sure spacebassed is correct, Ruby tubes are relabelled Chinese tubes.
Similarly, Groove Tubes as well as Tube Amp Doctors also do not make their own tubes, they relabel tubes made by other manufacturers.
For a regular gigging amp, I'm not sure if I'd pay for NOS tubes. The prices are too high, and some of the current production sound just as good to my ears for a lot less money. | 
11-25-2012, 07:34 AM
|  | Moderator Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine Moderator | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbia MO | | | one thing to keep in mind, here, is that the MM runs very high plate voltage.
This needs to be accounted for in your tube selection.
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