Behringer Bass V-AMP Pro - Part II: Get On Back, Jack, Do It Again... - Page 40

delta7fred · #**781** 01-30-2013, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dincz

Non-pro V-Amp - Where do you put it?

Mine sits on top of my amp but because it's so light, I worry about tripping over the cord and pulling it off. At the moment I loop the cord through the handle on my cab to prevent this happening.

Any other brilliant solutions?

Mine sits on the bench and is hooked up to my workshop rig, one day I will have to try it with my rehearsal or gigging rig.

I picked it up dirt cheap on Ebay, it is a bit beat up and missing it's pedal but I love the sounds it produces.

Codeman666 · #**782** 01-31-2013, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dincz

Non-pro V-Amp - Where do you put it?

Mine sits on top of my amp but because it's so light, I worry about tripping over the cord and pulling it off. At the moment I loop the cord through the handle on my cab to prevent this happening.

Any other brilliant solutions?

I have used mine in every gig,
As I dont need to mess with it or look at it during gigs I usually leave it on top of the amp/stack, I velcro the bottom of the AC adapter to avoid accidents and I use the footswitch in my Fender Racktuner to mute while tuning.

travishatcher · #**783** 01-31-2013, 04:43 PM

I'm trying to connect my V-AMP to my bass head and I found this reply from CharlieC in the many pages:
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the connection you described is not one that I would suggest using and it is no surprise that you cannot control the V-AMP's Master Volume when connected as you have it.

Instead, use one of the 1/4" outs on the back of the V-AMP labeled, "Unbalanced", the "L" jack, under the section, "Analog Line Outputs".

I am not familiar with the CMD102 amp, however, the MarkBass web site owner's manual states that it has a "RETURN EFFECT" connection on the rear, and I would use that. If that does not work then use the amp's front 1/4" input.

You should then be able to use the V-AMP's Master Volume knob and you will need to figure out things on the MarkBass side.
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I've done this.

BUt here's the rub:

Bass -> V-AMP -> Studio monitors = clear as a bell
Bass -> Amp = clear as a bell

Bass ->V-AMP -> Return Effect = Working! But TERRIBLE hiss/hum
Bass-> V-AMP -> Front Jack = Better, but still humming a bunch.

Thoughts?

**gard0300** · #**784** 01-31-2013, 05:16 PM

Mine did that once. I had to todo a factory reset. But I'm sure someone has a better answer for you.

travishatcher · #**785** 01-31-2013, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gard0300

Mine did that once. I had to todo a factory reset. But I'm sure someone has a better answer for you.

Thanks, this was just reset a week ago when I first got it and only touched by me (and I havent done much yet!)

Cheers!

Codeman666 · #**786** 02-01-2013, 02:42 AM

The problem seems to be coming from your amp or maybe it's some grounding issue.

btw am I the only one who uses the cab sim while playing with a real cab?

travishatcher · #**787** 02-01-2013, 04:50 AM

There is some hum on the line out jack. But when I plug the VAMP in all hell breaks loose. It's not the amp, I play through it clean all of the time with no issues, same with the VAMP, it's the pairing that's making all of the noise.

Codeman666 · #**788** 02-04-2013, 03:21 AM

rig update

I finally got rid of my old crappy/falling-apart/loosely wired thing that loosely looked like a 1x15 cab. This sounded like ass but got me by for a few years.

I now have the setup I wanted, BVA-Pro+ a PA amp, outputting 360w bridged and a half-decent 4x10 350w cab (Rockson).
This rig sounds so awesome, it's sounding so much better than most rigs I try at rehersal studios (Trace-Elliot/Ashdowns/Hartke/Ampeg Portaflex)

I might get an additional cab or a lighter (Class D) PA amp but I'll never stop using this BVAPro+PA-amp setup, I love it!

Regular bass amps now just feel weak, limited and overpriced to me

Rebopmass · #**789** 02-04-2013, 06:31 AM

Yeah im waiting to do that. My carvin head is finally fixed so im interested to see how it works hooked into my two cheapie lol cabs i bought and installed mesa boogies in. Still may go power amp rte not sure yet. I should mention that the cans are a rebuilt peavey tx 210for and a ampeg pro hlf. I got both cabs used for 100a bucks total lol. Speakers cost me 120. repaint refinish and tweeters 200. Sofor 420 or so ive got some serious cabs. Look around and buy some used stuff. Plenty of deals ro he had. And the Hlf is brand new now, mayne better than new. Lol. Check craigs list and stuff take ur time you can get great deals. Hell i bought bass vamp for 60 bucks.

Rebopmass · #**790** 02-04-2013, 06:47 AM

Here it is finished.

Sevrink · #**791** 02-11-2013, 07:10 PM

Hey all,

I just ordered a new EPROM for my Bass V-Amp Pro. I was wondering if anyone knows whether I will have to do a factory reset to initialize it or if it's just a case of plug-and-play?

CharlieC · #**792** 02-12-2013, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sevrink

Hey all,

I just ordered a new EPROM for my Bass V-Amp Pro. I was wondering if anyone knows whether I will have to do a factory reset to initialize it or if it's just a case of plug-and-play?

I would suggest a factory reset after the swap, even though it may not be required

Cheers!

Sevrink · #**793** 02-12-2013, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieC

I would suggest a factory reset after the swap, even though it may not be required

Cheers!

Sweet!

Thanks Charlie C

Timsan · #**794** 02-14-2013, 04:48 PM

Ahoy all.

I've read through a fair bit of these threads, and doing this influenced my decision to get one of these babies. I'm pretty happy with the unit, and it serves well as a practice amp as well as part of my live rig. Thanks for the extensive discussion and the pro tips.

I have a question...

I use a pretty basic rig. It's a Hartke HA3500 and VX 4x10 cab, as well as the Bass VAmp Pro.
After reading the threads, I'm torn between running the VAmp through the FX loop on the Hartke, or using the Bass VAmp as the preamp, and only using the power amp part of the HA3500 (i.e. going from the VAmp output to the effects return on the HA3500) What would be the pros and cons of each?

Also with regards to the FCB1010 - apparently it's an absolute cow to program from scratch.
EurekaSound sell a new PROM for the pedalboard that configures it for use in conjunction with the Bass VAmp.

I'm still fiddling with the VAmp. I don't have a lot of time for it, so it's great when I can sit down and get to grips with it. The PC software helps a lot with this.

I believe this is my first post in a long time... I've been a bit of a lurker up until now. So much to read... no questions up to this point! Nice to meet you all.

Timsan · #**795** 02-14-2013, 04:56 PM

Wait...

does this mean I'm VAmp squad member #42? I'll definitely claim it.

CharlieC · #**796** 02-14-2013, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timsan

or using the Bass VAmp as the preamp, and only using the power amp part of the HA3500 (i.e. going from the VAmp output to the effects return on the HA3500)

^^^ Exactly

Welcome, Squad Member #42

Cheers!

guybertron · #**797** 02-19-2013, 07:46 AM

I have been tinkering about with my V-Amp and I would just like to summarize my thoughts so far after follwing the initial set-up guide provided by CharlieC. I'm pretty much concurring with him, quite frankly.

As the great man so rightly pointed out: its really important to set the initial input gain correctly in the config settings. It is astonishing that such a crucial setting barely gets a mention in the official manual! Wack it all the way up (100%) by default, and come down if needs be.

Also - always go into your amp via the "DI" or "effects return" so as to bypass the amp's own pre-amp and use the V-Amp's tonal coloring (Exit the V-Amp via the unbalanced output in this case).

The tuner will work correctly (becomes stable) with the gain config setting pushed high. My tip for the tuner is to tune using the 12th fret harmonics. This seems to eliminate a degree of twitchy instability in the readout when using the open strings.

Generally I think that the amp modelling features are the star of the show. (It is called the "Virtual Amp" after all). The selection of effects are generally usable although not over-inspiring.

The factory presets give the impression that some sort of random settings generator was used to create them! I don't think many of them could be much worse if that technique was used!

I have taken a shine to one of the four distortion pedal simulations (found by pressing the "B" button when in edit mode). That is namely No.4: A simultation of the T.C. Electronics Booster, Line Driver and Distortion (BLD) Pedal pictured here.

http://forum.musicradar.com/showthre...=1#post1190616

The only reason I can say that No.4 is that particular effect is because CharlieC contacted Behringer to query what precisely were used for these four distortions. These four were never mentioned by name in the manual!

Behringer Bass V-AMP Pro

Emulations 2 and 3 (Big Muff, Pro-Co Rat) add too much distortion for my taste, although I'm not accusing the emulations of being bad.
The EHX Hog's Foot (No.1, AKA "The Mole") I could see being useful but I'd like to test this at a higher volume before I comment. It can add a hell of a lot of sub-bass and I could imagine this swamping everything at high vol.

I like to use the BLD really to fatten the tone up - I set the the Drive to 12 o'clock, the Boost to 7 o'clock (min) and the Tone to between 9 - 11 o'clock (low, depending on the amp model used). It sounds nice too with a hint of Flanger - just enough to tell it's there.

All in all the sounds are good.

CharlieC's advice is solid: Get the initial gain config right, pick an amp model, flatten all EQ's and remove effects, then tweak settings to your taste.

Cheers!

CharlieC · #**798** 02-19-2013, 09:02 AM

^^^

Thanks, guyberton, your post made my day!

It is my pleasure to be able to help where I can and give back to the TalkBass community.

Cheers!

guybertron · #**799** 02-19-2013, 09:23 AM

Seriously, the V-Amp device engineers / designers at Behringer were really in the zone. We now know that its a great device with huge potential.

Sadly the writers of the manual and choosers of the pre-loaded settings were not quite in the same zone.

They should have employed you to write the manual!

guybertron · #**800** 02-20-2013, 10:37 AM

Given that you can change presets [A --> E] for a selected enumerated bank [1 --> 25] with a single press of the particular letter's button, I find myself picking a specific amp model and using the 5 letter slots in that bank, for variations on that amp.

For example, my bank [1] is all SVT, bank [2] is all tube pre-amp etc.

Then I will apply similar effects for slots A --> E irrespective of the bank number

e.g. [A] is always clean and minimal, [b] a copy of [A] plus a little distortion etc you get the idea.

In this way it is quick and easy to select the sound you require.

It's these levels of OCD that help with my chosen profession of computer programmer

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"You have applied flanger to a preset in slot [E]!? Are you some kind of anarchist?!"