Behringer iNUKE + Bass Vamp

[vij]

I am thinking about getting some thing lighter and I found the Behringer stuff. I could get the new iNuke 1000 or 3000 power amp and a Bass V-AMP PRO. The weight is 6 kg or 13 lbs with 1000 or 3000 watts compared to my 18kg or 40 lbs Ampeg SVT4 pro. Does any one have any experience with the Behring stuff.

I was also thinking anbout replacing my big Ampeg 410HLF with a EBS lightweight 410 that is about the half weight.

Any one having any thoughts regarding this? Stupid? Does it make sense?

Jocke.............

[bertbass666]

I've got an inuke 3000 and it puts out 200 watts channel. The 3000 watts is peak power and nothing like reality. Very light though.

[CharlieC]

I once thought it stupid until I heard the result...

Behringer Bass V-AMP Pro - TalkBass Forums

Cheers!

[LiamPodmore]

If you want light and relatively cheap go V-Amp and a Peavey IPR.

Liam

[seamonkey]

Sweetwater carries the iNuke and extends the warranty to 2 years
Behringer iNUKE NU1000 | Sweetwater.com

$200 for a 7lb amp, with a 2 year warranty is hard to beat.

[BurningSkies]

If you're going that direction, get a Peavey IPR-1600. It's 300 bucks and actually has some wattage behind it and is bridgeable...

[vij]

Originally Posted by bertbass666

I've got an inuke 3000 and it puts out 200 watts channel. The 3000 watts is peak power and nothing like reality. Very light though.

I guess that is at 8 ohms. would make 400 at 4ohms, 750 at 2 ohms and 1500 ohms bridged at 4 ohms. Not as stated but still powerfull and cheap.

Jocke.........

[rad bassman]

Originally Posted by BurningSkies

If you're going that direction, get a Peavey IPR-1600. It's 300 bucks and actually has some wattage behind it and is bridgeable...

ive looked quite closely at the ipr1600 on the peavey site, whilst bridging the amp is quite possible it would seem that peavey do not advertise this option, i read somewhere (cant remember where) that peavey do not support or reccomend it

[BurningSkies]

Originally Posted by rad bassman

ive looked quite closely at the ipr1600 on the peavey site, whilst bridging the amp is quite possible it would seem that peavey do not advertise this option, i read somewhere (cant remember where) that peavey do not support or reccomend it

Peavey Engineering actually posted here with the 'how to' for bridging the IPR 1600/3000. I've built a bridging cable form my IPR 3000 and have used it many times without incident. Well...as long as you don't count having over 2kw on tap for a live show an incident.

[Zoa]

iNukes have woefully overstated power ratings. You would be better off with the Peavey. More power and more reliability.

[seamonkey]

iNuke is bridgeable, stereo, or mono with just a flick of a switch.

Granted wattage isn't "FTC", "EIA" rated, or even "RMS" but seriously look, the Peavey isn't either. Lower priced Crown amps aren't either.

They are all playing a ratings game.

[subdude67]

hi vij,

the v-amp sounds amazing, has tons of features, all sorts of connections and is nevertheless easy to use. (just DON'T use the manual!)
the behringer power amps do have exaggerated power ratings but what they really produce is still enough and price wise you'll find them hard to beat.

[vij]

Originally Posted by subdude67

hi vij,

the v-amp sounds amazing, has tons of features, all sorts of connections and is nevertheless easy to use. (just DON'T use the manual!)
the behringer power amps do have exaggerated power ratings but what they really produce is still enough and price wise you'll find them hard to beat.

Thats what I was thinking too. First I was thinking that the iNUKE 3000 would be to way to powerful and I was thinking about getting the iNUKE1000 but if it "only" gives half of its 3000 watts bridged at 4 ohms it is still in the region of 1500 watts and that is more then enough and more then I have today. The SVT-4 that I have today is more then enough anyway. How does this D-class amps sound?

If I can have more flexibility then today for 500 dollars at 1/3 of the weight I am very happy.

If the iNUKE3000 is not enought I can still use it for our monitors and get a iNUKE 6000 for the bass.

Jocke............

[Oobly]

Personally, I would steer clear and rather get a Peavey IPR or a Crown XLS. Actually, I DID get a Crown XLS and am very happy with it.

[subdude67]

if you have a look at this thread you find more details on the behringer vs crown power amps, seems that the behringer has fan noise issues.

Behringer Bass V-AMP Pro - Part II: Get On Back, Jack, Do It Again...

[rad bassman]

Originally Posted by BurningSkies

Peavey Engineering actually posted here with the 'how to' for bridging the IPR 1600/3000. I've built a bridging cable form my IPR 3000 and have used it many times without incident. Well...as long as you don't count having over 2kw on tap for a live show an incident.

lol, indeed, 2k of power on tap is an incident to report, thanks for the response BS, i missed that post by peavey engineering, if you come across the thread again could you PM me the link please, would love to read more on the peavey products, i am considering a power amp/pre set up, on my searches i found nothing definitive and clear, only 2nd hand info

Originally Posted by Oobly

Personally, I would steer clear and rather get a Peavey IPR or a Crown XLS. Actually, I DID get a Crown XLS and am very happy with it.

a big +1

[3506string]

Originally Posted by seamonkey

iNuke is bridgeable, stereo, or mono with just a flick of a switch.

Granted wattage isn't "FTC", "EIA" rated, or even "RMS" but seriously look, the Peavey isn't either. Lower priced Crown amps aren't either.

They are all playing a ratings game.

Isn't the FTC's rating system power for xΩ from 20hz-20hz @ .1%THD

And the EIA rating system power for xΩ at 1khz @ 1% THD.

Peavey has both of these listed on their amp's spec sheet.

IPR1600

Rated Power (2 x 2 ohms) - 800 watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.1% T.H.D. both channels driven.
Rated Power (2 x 4 ohms) - 530 watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.1% T.H.D. both channels driven.
Rated Power (2 x 8 ohms) - 300 watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.1% T.H.D. both channels driven.
Rated Power (1 x 2 ohms) - 1000 watts @ 1 kHz at <0.1% T.H.D.
Rated Power (1 x 4 ohms) - 600 watts @ 1 kHz at <0.1% T.H.D.
Rated Power (1 x 8 ohms) - 320 watts @ 1 kHz at <0.1% T.H.D.
T.H.D. (2 x 2 ohms) - <0.1% @ 600 watts per channel from 20 Hz to 1.5 kHz, decreasing to 500 watts at 20 kHz at <0.25%
T.H.D. (2 x 4 ohms) - <0.1% @ 470 watts per channel from 20 Hz to 20 kHz
T.H.D. (2 x 8 ohms) - <0.1% @ 250 watts per channel from 20 Hz to 20 kHz

Crown also has the EIA ratings on their spec sheet
http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/amps/X...eet_CRO137.pdf

Behringer has not put up manuals or spec sheets for any of the inuke series. There are no power ratings with distortion figures available for the inukes, and I looked long for this info emailed and messaged them asking for this and never got a answer. I had high hopes for the inuke series and I still thing they will do well in the market, but if I can't get info on something as simple as rms power rating, I'd rather buy something that has been field tested and favorably reviewed.

[seamonkey]

Here's the manual for the iNuke's
http://www.behringer.com/assets/NU3000_P0AHN_QSG_EN.pdf

EIA rating includes burst, and continuous, 1/3 power etc.
On the whole THD .1% and .2% is barely different. It is not a doubling of power to cause this to double. THD isn't even detected until above 3.0%

The Peavey, the Crown, the iNuke - none of them say "EIA"
Check the QSC site, you'll actually see "EIA" on the specs

[copressit]

I got an iNUKE3000 a few months ago. It has gobs of power, keeps a very firm grip on my fEARful 15/6/1 at high volume. The internal DSP is superior to anything out there and very useable, especially the HP. It will take time, but there will be many more believers in this amp as time passes. The only question left in my mind is longevity and reliability. But so far, so good.