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05-24-2010, 10:27 PM
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First what is the risk? Chinese made - so is half the products around the globe. Ampeg knock-off? So are most Guci, Prada, D&G and Louis Vuitton items that people carry around. The Chinese excell at this stuff. A lot of the time you'll never even know the difference. So why all the hate for Behringer?
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05-24-2010, 11:05 PM
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If you're OK with the sound, features, and warranty (1 year exchange) then do what you think is best. Actually try it, buy from a store that will let you try it for a month on gigs and rehearsals.
Look who they own now http://www.midasconsoles.com/
Another one http://www.klarkteknik.com/
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05-26-2010, 12:17 AM
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05-26-2010, 01:30 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chicago | | | If you're in high school, in a garage jam band, and you just play every once in a while... maybe. If you actually gig, not worth it..
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05-26-2010, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MetroBass First what is the risk? Chinese made - so is half the products around the globe. Ampeg knock-off? So are most Guci, Prada, D&G and Louis Vuitton items that people carry around. The Chinese excell at this stuff. A lot of the time you'll never even know the difference. So why all the hate for Behringer? | the horrible sounding cabs, the electronics made with the cheapest of cheap parts, and the blatant way they cop the look of the products they're imitating is just too much for me. plus they hired that dope who nearly ran loud tech. and ampeg into the ground.
other than that, they're fine.
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07-22-2010, 07:43 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Austin, Texas | | | My BXR1800H has worked fine for my home use. And the price was outstanding.
There is absolutely no reason for me to spend any more on another product, because I just don't use it that much or gig with it. It's for having fun....and it fits the bill with ease.
As far as Behringer copying others products....That has been going on in production for hundreds of years. Just look at bourbon....ever seen Jack Danials, Ezra Brooks, George Dickel and Evan Williams. Their labels, bottles, packaging and marketing are very, very similar. It doesn't mean that one is better or worse than the others. It just gives the consumer more choices when at the store. So, if you don't like Behringer, fine, don't buy it....but, I don't think it right to bash them for being in business and trying to build affordible products. | 
07-22-2010, 10:32 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: SIT strings | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal, Qc. Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyM the horrible sounding cabs, the electronics made with the cheapest of cheap parts, and the blatant way they cop the look of the products they're imitating is just too much for me. plus they hired that dope who nearly ran loud tech. and ampeg into the ground.
other than that, they're fine. | +1
To the OP: stay away from Behringer for anything related to a bass amp. For the same money there's better stuff out there. Many "big names" company now have an affordable line.
Lately I've seen Gallien-Krueger put out some really affordable stuff. Ashdown is another one that comes to mind. I'd buy any of those before Behringer.
At least if they would do their own designs, it would still be sh*t but it would be their sh*t  Copying popular stuff is just wanting to make money on top of the companies that worked hard to develop an innovative product (at the time it was released). | 
07-23-2010, 12:38 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mesa, Arizona | | | I am so tired of the Chinese now making all our crap that I am downright boycotting them.
No offense, but this went too far and now look out the job crisis we've got.
People like to blame the right or the left, the current president or the previous, but the true culprit is our stupidity in always looking for crappy cheap alternatives and in the end we end up with what we deserve: cheaply made plastic junk that barely lasts our little moment of gratification we get when we buy the piece of junk.
Most of my basses are made in USA, my only non-US bass is my CIJ Fender Jazz, because the Japs at least make good stuff, my amp is an Avatar, my head is a Genz Benz (although it's made in Taiwan, true, it's made to good specs).
A farmer I knew when I was a kid used to say: "You've got to be rich to buy cheap". He wore the same clothes all his life and his car lasted several decades and I am sure is still used somewhere by somebody.
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07-23-2010, 12:43 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba, Canada | | | I personally don't think the products are worth it, not to me at least.
And I'm not saying that at all because of where they are made, I just don't like the failure rate of them. It seems like everyday we hear someone asking about a problem going wrong with their behringer. I've had experiences with their smaller combos, speakers blowing... etc, not to say that isn't my fault, but I never really played loud.
I'd say it is worth it to save up the extra cash and buy something with a better record. If not, that's okay, hopefully the gear you buy doesn't crap out on you, but if it does, you can't say you weren't warned. | 
07-23-2010, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NickInMesa People like to blame the right or the left, the current president or the previous, but the true culprit is our stupidity in always looking for crappy cheap alternatives and in the end we end up with what we deserve: cheaply made plastic junk that barely lasts our little moment of gratification we get when we buy the piece of junk. | This is the biggest culprit.
Its the whole Mentality.... "I want what i want now. I want it to be cheap, and i want a lot of it."
Matey.... while the Chinese DO copy our stuff... its because WE pay them too.
Just my opinion.
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07-23-2010, 08:10 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis | | | Just remember that the knock-off purse only has to look good; I think you'll expect a bit more then a glorified paperweight when buying an amplifier.
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07-23-2010, 08:39 AM
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07-23-2010, 02:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bezerkely, CA | | Behringer! Why don't you just go and put a loaded gun to the heads of your children!
Your CHILDREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!
OP, what do you want it for? I liked dude's post about how it's fine for home use. Are you gonna tour with it?
I had a B-word combo I left in the practice space when I was in an old guy Latin jazz thing. Even with an E-drum kit, it was only loud enough totally dimed. But, I played it totally dimed for 3 hours at a time once a week for a year, and although it got a tad warm to the touch it never, ever crapped out. Eventually, GC got it back for a small fraction of what I gave them for it.
No conclusion. That's just my experience.
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07-23-2010, 03:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Budapest | | | I think Behringer amps are horrible. In that price range go for Ashdown! | 
07-23-2010, 03:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego, CA | | | I'm guessing the OP is basing his interest on an on-line ad.
Buying on line is risky unless you now your gear... and Behringer is not gear that I'd own unless I had no other choice.
Save yourself grief - take that money and buy something USED from TB classifieds or Ebay.
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07-23-2010, 03:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bezerkely, CA | | +1 on affordable Ashdown gear, as well as GK. When Mrs. Bomb isn't home my practice rig are a bottom-of-the-line Ashdown head (EB180) and cab (MAG 210 DEEP) that sound effing swett and costs about $450 total, new. Gets moderately loud for what it is too.
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07-23-2010, 05:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dallas, TX | | | I'd always choose a quality peice of used gear over brand new junk, any day of the week.
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07-23-2010, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RickenBoogie I'd always choose a quality peice of used gear over brand new junk, any day of the week. |
Same here - that's a no-brainer, IMO...
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07-23-2010, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RickenBoogie I'd always choose a quality peice of used gear over brand new junk, any day of the week. | Yes, but you don't get a flashy web site with cool pix and great "user reviews" to guide you...
It does seem that many, MANY younger players get on line, see a picture and feel that hole, burning in their pocket...
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07-23-2010, 06:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Danville, VA | | | Search GC's used for bass stuff, they are selling a used SVT-450H for a hundred bucks. Get that.
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