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07-05-2011, 01:13 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ | | | Bergantino HT322 sound in a lighter package?
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I've finally come to the realization that as much as I like the sound I get from my Berg HT322, a 95 lb cabinet is not practical for my needs, or my back.
I've been considering several 2 x 112 setups (w/ each 112 weighing no more than 45 lbs +/-, preferably less), so I could use a single for rehearsals/small gigs, & both for when I need to push more air. I've spent time reading a bunch of the 112 "stack" threads. While the obvious answer might be to go for something in the Bergantino line, locally I have the following choices:
(1) Aguilar DB112
(2) Aguilar SL112
(3) Genz Benz Neox 112
The only experience I have with either Aguilar or GB is playing through some Ag GS cabs, but I understand they're voiced differently than either the DB &/or SL.
I play a Fender P, and the head I currently use is the TC Electronic Classic 450. The band I just joined plays mostly old-fashioned R&R.
Would any of the above 3 options get close to what I'm used to with my HT322? | 
07-05-2011, 03:59 PM
|  | Hip No Ties | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York, NY | | No direct experience here, but I would guess that the Genz Benz Uber Quad (GB 1288T-UQ) would be a very good choice. Similar driver configuration to the Bergantino HT322, but only 58 pounds.
Can any Uber Quad users confirm?
MM
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07-05-2011, 06:43 PM
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07-05-2011, 06:50 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Tasty Kake Krimpets | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Jersey | | | I so regret having to sell my 322. That cab rules! I dont think the Ags sound as crispy as the Bergs. The Genzies are good but again not that Berg sound. Have you thought about some other Berbs? Where in Jersey are you btw?
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07-05-2011, 07:48 PM
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07-05-2011, 08:00 PM
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Those Genz NeoX112 cabs are nice, but they sound more like 15's and won't have that HT mid signature.
My AE212 is what eventually replaced my HT212.
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07-05-2011, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by funknasty Where in Jersey are you btw? | Exit 138
OK, here're another 2 options which fit with my original game plan, i.e., keeping the Berg. I could get any of the 112s as a single cab for low(er) volume needs ... and either bring the TC head along, or buy an inexpensive 2nd head (used Peavey, SWR).
Or, last weekend I was given the opportunity to "demo" a used 1999 Eden Nemesis 2x10 combo, the blue face-plate one, NC200P, I believe. My new band members said they liked the tone. At 47 lbs, it's not too heavy to carry down/up a flight of stairs (rehearsal is in the BL's basement), and was loud enough to hear myself at rehearsal.
MysticMichael, if I'm not mistaken, has said he really likes this combo. And I don't think he's the only TBer who feels this way. | 
07-05-2011, 11:02 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon | | | Aggie GS 112's, i have four and gig (mostly) with three, two driven by a Thunderfunk 750 and the center cab by the Orange Terror bass. Out of this world fat. I have not giged my berg htt322 in years, yes three gs112's are heavier, but I never lift them all at once and most gigs I load them on my rock n roller with the amps, gear and a bass or two for a one trip wonder.
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07-05-2011, 11:15 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | Don't worry about what's local. Be patient, search the classifieds here often, and Berg ER stack will show up and someone will ship them to you for a total price you're happy with. You are likely to have to sell the 322 locally though, or eat some shipping cost if you're in a hurry. | 
07-06-2011, 01:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Princeton, NJ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by AMp'D.2play Exit 138
OK, here're another 2 options which fit with my original game plan, i.e., keeping the Berg. I could get any of the 112s as a single cab for low(er) volume needs ... and either bring the TC head along, or buy an inexpensive 2nd head (used Peavey, SWR).
Or, last weekend I was given the opportunity to "demo" a used 1999 Eden Nemesis 2x10 combo, the blue face-plate one, NC200P, I believe. My new band members said they liked the tone. At 47 lbs, it's not too heavy to carry down/up a flight of stairs (rehearsal is in the BL's basement), and was loud enough to hear myself at rehearsal.
MysticMichael, if I'm not mistaken, has said he really likes this combo. And I don't think he's the only TBer who feels this way. | Have you considered the Berg AE series? The AE 210 is 40 lbs and sounds pretty great if you're into its tonal signature. I own one but am completely unfamiliar with the 322, so I couldn't offer anything in way of comparison. | 
07-06-2011, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AMp'D.2play Or, last weekend I was given the opportunity to "demo" a used 1999 Eden Nemesis 2x10 combo, the blue face-plate one, NC200P, I believe. My new band members said they liked the tone. At 47 lbs, it's not too heavy to carry down/up a flight of stairs (rehearsal is in the BL's basement), and was loud enough to hear myself at rehearsal.
MysticMichael, if I'm not mistaken, has said he really likes this combo. And I don't think he's the only TBer who feels this way. | You are correct, sir. Since last year, I've been moving away from the combo world at warp speed. But my Nemesis 2x10 combo is here to stay. It does so many things, so well, that I could never part with it.
Deep, warm, clean tone; lots of nice signal-processing/routing goodies in the preamp section; surprising degree of volume for a 2x10; compact and not too heavy. It's ideal for personal practice, recording, moderate-volume rehearsals, and small-to-moderate sized gigs. What's not to love?
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07-07-2011, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tombowlus | I think I'm going to take the advice of Tom B, and c-ba55, and keep my eyes peeled for an HT112ER stack.
For the short-term, I'm going to grab the Eden Nemesis 2x10 combo to get me through some basement band rehearsals.
Hopefully & ideally, I'll eventually piece together a Berg stack AND keep the HT322! | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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