Best 112 Choice/ need low end :(

[fretwear]

Looking to get into a light weight 112 cab that can put down the low end at a reasonable price. For amps I'm running a Eden wt400 or GB 6.0 Shuttle, basses G&L L-1000, G&L SB-1, Fender P bass. Mainly into blues with some country on the side. Been running Eden (2)-D112xlt, they're heavy on the mids and just don't have the low end I'm looking for. How about a 112 cab, 8 or 4 ohm that can give a good punch in the chest and carry the low end? From the response, a 15, or 210 cab should also be considered in the line up.

Been looking at so far:
Avatar SB112 Neo Delta LF
Avatar Neo 210

Schroder 15+L
Bag End S12-D

Bag End S15-D

Thanks for any advice/ new ideas

[SurferJoe46]

If you want a lightweight - then you might be stuck with a single 12 - but really if you want to go deep, add a few more 12s or a great big 15 or 18.

Twelves in singles just don't make it in my book - but your results may differ, of course.

I know - I know! There are a lot of punchy 2 & 4-10s out there, but you said "LIGHT"

A neo-15 would be great for a single lighter cab.

[rpsands]

fEarful 12/6s.

Second choice would be a Neox112T from Genz Benz (or two).

[Crabby]

EA CXL-112. I have one and it handles a ton of power and goes quite deep.

[mntngrown]

fEarful or wait for Acme to come out with a 12. rumored to be in the works!

[Jaco who?]

Of the cabs you want to try, I'd scratch off the Schroeders and Bag ends, "heavy on the mids" are pretty much what those cabs are all about. The Avatar is huge for a single 12, and would be the choice for strictly low end, but it can be a bit boomy/inarticulate without judicious EQ; sometimes you have to be careful about what you wish for.

[will33]

If you're looking for real lows, like good response to 50-60hz, I'd also scratch shroeders and probably bagends off your list. The fearful 12's can bring the lows but you need some power to bring them to their potential, ie; do it loudly. Something like a medium to larger offering all in one bass head or a medium poweramp somwhere in the neighborhood of 300-500 bridged @ 8ohms, capable of bridging at 4 area.


Also take into consideration the fact that there's only so much a 112 can give you no matter how good it is. Don't be surprised of you end up settling on a really good 15 or a pair of 112's for a 212 setup, maybe only taking half of it when you can get away with it.

[Tim1]

The Bergantino HT112ER goes deeper than any 12 I have come across, weighs about 40 pounds and very smooth in the tops. Depending on how loud you play you may need two though.

[fretwear]

Is the WT-400 or 6.0 are under powered for the fearful 12/6s? What "good" brand 15 or pair of 112's would you put with them power wise, I'd like to stay with these amps for now, but never say never. What head do you recomend if not these? I've got 2- D112xlts and they sound better paired running at 4 ohms.

Originally Posted by will33

If you're looking for real lows, like good response to 50-60hz, I'd also scratch shroeders and probably bagends off your list. The fearful 12's can bring the lows but you need some power to bring them to their potential, ie; do it loudly. Something like a medium to larger offering all in one bass head or a medium poweramp somwhere in the neighborhood of 300-500 bridged @ 8ohms, capable of bridging at 4 area.


Also take into consideration the fact that there's only so much a 112 can give you no matter how good it is. Don't be surprised of you end up settling on a really good 15 or a pair of 112's for a 212 setup, maybe only taking half of it when you can get away with it.

[fretwear]

Talked to Avatar and the recomendation for low end was the SB112 Neo Delta LF, he went on to say that a 112 paired with their 210 for punch would the best choice.

Originally Posted by Jaco who?

Of the cabs you want to try, I'd scratch off the Schroeders and Bag ends, "heavy on the mids" are pretty much what those cabs are all about. The Avatar is huge for a single 12, and would be the choice for strictly low end, but it can be a bit boomy/inarticulate without judicious EQ; sometimes you have to be careful about what you wish for.

[jokerjkny]

lots of great suggestions...

for a flatter response, the berg ae112 and the epifani ul112 sound the biggest.

for something with more of a basscentric voicing, the epifani performance ps112 is pretty nice. like a bigger sounding aguilar gs112.

but frankly, weight to volume ratio, the berg ae210 is pretty big sounding. plays real nice w/ eq's, too. great little cab.

[SlingBass4]

I own a couple of single 12" G112's that I rear ported and installed Eminence Kappa Pro-12A's (500 watts rms ea.) in, and they more than handle the job with my Epifani UL-502. I don't believe they offer that cab any longer, and the Kappa Pro's are on the heavy side. *I* wouldn't hesitate to go with 2 of the SB112's with Neos, myself, IF they could tolerate the power I enjoy (they don't). 2-12" cabs can please many a discerning ear IF one pairs it up with the right head, and knows how to use it

[Matt Dean]

I know you're asking about twelves... so I say get a Mesa Boogie Powerhouse 112.

However, if your looking for a great single cab/speaker solution, I'd recommend a Kapalite 3015 (15") in a TL 606 style box.

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by jokerjkny

but frankly, weight to volume ratio, the berg ae210 is pretty big sounding. plays real nice w/ eq's, too. great little cab.

+1 not cheap, but sometimes you get what you pay for. I have an AE112 as well and it is a really nice cab with a big sound. The AE210 has much more punch though..

[fretwear]

Might a light weight 210 be the answer for more...the Avatar 210 is in the same size cab as the 112 and is only 5 more lbs.

Avatar Neo 210 44lbs.

Thanks for all the great ideas, I'm wearing out the reviews at Harmony Central, good feedback for sure.

[SwamiRob]

Originally Posted by mntngrown

fEarful or wait for Acme to come out with a 12. rumored to be in the works!

I'm sure the b1 (1x10) can push plenty of air for what it is, that'll go pretty bloody low too.

[TomB]

An Aguilar DB-112 has a great low end and great balance across the spectrum and a very sweet high end that doesn't like a tweeter-equipped cab but it is. It's 42 lbs. (Ugh) but an OK 1-hand carry. The vintage looks are a hit in blues bands. 2 of them are roughly on a sonic par w/a 4X10.

[Whitbass]

Bergantino HT112ER
well, well worth a listen

[Medford Bassman]

I have a Genz NEOX 112T cab for smaller gigs and I am always impressed with how deep it sounds. I use a fiver on it as well.

[Mulebagger]

the Bag End isn't light, comes in around 70 lbs, but it is a super cabinet and can handle most gigs by itself. I've play a 6 string through mine for years and have never found myself shy of bass.

I used the D10BX-D and never needed more cabinet unless I was playing a large outdoor gig.
I know it's 70 lbs, but it's small and well, its only 70 lbs
DEEP RED DOUBLE 10-INCH ENCLOSURES
Model D10B-D D10BX-D
Impedance 4 Ohms 4 Ohms
Continuous Sine Wave Power Handling (in Watts) 400 400
Music Program Power Handling 800 800
Sensitivity (in dBspl)
1 Watt/1 Meter 100 100
Frequency Response 40-6kHz 40-20kHz
Crossover Frequency N/A 3.7kHz
Parallel Input Connectors P+B P+B+S
Dimensions
HxWxD (in inches) 18.5x22.5x18.5 18.5x22.5x18.5
Net Weight
(in pounds) 64 70
Components 2, E-10 1, E-10
1,E-10X