Best Amp for 2 Bergantino AE112

crdasilva · #1 12-08-2010, 08:32 PM

Hi guys, I have 2 bergantino AE112... and I want to know in your opinion what is the best head for this cabs.

I play funk and gospel music.....

Thanks...

ezstep · #2 12-08-2010, 10:16 PM

That is really subjective, not objective. What sounds great to me might not suit your tastes, and vice-versa.

Having said that, I have a Bergie EX112 (old, not ER), and I wouldn't part with it for anything. I use a Shuttle6.0 with it, put the whole thing on an amp stand for stage monitor, and I love it and the sound guys seem to love it, too. Not much bleed-over into vocal mics, very tight bass, great mids and highs.

But, try out a dozen heads with it and get the one YOU like, not the one(s) I (we) like.

Tim1 · #3 12-08-2010, 10:37 PM

A friend of mine uses two of these with an LM2 and gets fine results, playing with quite a full band - 2 guitars and a sax - on some big stages. With the AEs I think you cannot go past Markbass, I have an HT112ER which might be a little better suited to the shuttle than to the MB I use with it although it still does a great job.

Stereo Joe · #4 12-08-2010, 10:58 PM

You might also want to look into the TC Electronic RH450. I use one with an AE410 and it sounds just fantastic. I think the whole AE line of cabs is similarly voiced so your AE112s would probably be great with an RH450.

Infidelity · #5 12-08-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim1

A friend of mine uses two of these with an LM2 and gets fine results, playing with quite a full band - 2 guitars and a sax - on some big stages. With the AEs I think you cannot go past Markbass, I have an HT112ER which might be a little better suited to the shuttle than to the MB I use with it although it still does a great job.

Don't mean to argue or w/e but the HT112ER is not suitable with the shuttles.. IMO The shuttles just doesn't push the low end extension of the ER's and it sounds like its anemic or close to being anemic..

Tim1 · #6 12-09-2010, 01:24 AM

Thanks for that, Infidelity, I haven't had the opportunity to try the pairing and it was just a thought. Nicely killed any gas I had for an amp change, might get another HT112ER instead.

**woolysock** · #7 12-09-2010, 01:37 AM

@ Tim1 -- I use an Aguilar AG500sc to power one or two Berg HT112ER cabs and never need to have the volume past 1/3. Sounds fat, smooth, terrific.

KJung · #8 12-09-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by esoxhntr

Genz Benz GBE series. Totally stable down to 2 ohms, lots of control features, depth, punch, clarity, and loads of volume. Yes they are heavy - that's why there are lots of them available right now - but they sound great and are relatively inexpensive for the features and sound quality you get. I run my AE212 with a GBE400, and it rules.

If you want something lighter, the shuttle 9 might be a good match as well, and I think the new Genz Streamliner will work really well too. Other good matches are reported to be the Markbass F1 and F500, Thunderfunk, TecAmp, all the usual suspects. But since you are running two AE212 cabs, you will want to be careful about finding an amp that deals well with a 2 ohm load, which may actually eliminate the Shuttle 9 now that I think about it.

He is talking about two AE112's. I misread that as AE212 also, and erased my post.

To the OP, the Genz 9, the Markbass F500 and the Genz Shuttle Max 6 would all sound great for your tone goals (which I assume are reasonably brite, tight, and punchy) with that very nice stack. All three of these heads have a nice punch to them, plenty of power to drive that stack to full volume, and a nice top end if you slap or like that 'hear the windings on the B string' sort of grind.

If the F500 didn't work so well for my tone goals, I'd be powering my AE212 with a Shuttle Max 6.

Muziekschuur · #9 12-09-2010, 07:53 AM

Markbass F1 might be nice.

How about a Fender preamp and a class D end amp with oempf...

Powersoft amps are the thing to beat.. So I'd suggest an Fender Preamp and a Powersoft endamp.

tombowlus · #10 12-09-2010, 08:47 AM

The Markbass F500 pairs up very well with two AE112's. This is a very balanced, solid combination. For a bit more lively response the Mesa/Boogie M6/9 pair up very well with these cabs. If you want a more warm/round, but still articulate tone, the Mesa/Boogie WalkAbout is great. The GK MB500 and MB Fusion can also work well, but we are talking some serious upper mid to high end cut and bite (which may or may not be your thing).

crdasilva · #11 12-09-2010, 09:49 AM

Hi Guys, thanks...

About the weight of the amp, I dont have problem with this...

I would like to try many options but the city that I live in Brazil is very dificulty to find.... so, I have to import, and in this case your suggestions is very important for me.

I would like to buy the best option, unfortunatly I cant try before...

And about GK1001RBII?

The F500 is the best option from Marbass to my cabs?

Thanks again...

KJung · #12 12-09-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by crdasilva

Hi Guys, thanks...

About the weight of the amp, I dont have problem with this...

I would like to try many options but the city that I live in Brazil is very dificulty to find.... so, I have to import, and in this case your suggestions is very important for me.

I would like to buy the best option, unfortunatly I cant try before...

And about GK1001RBII?

The F500 is the best option from Marbass to my cabs?

Thanks again...

Hard to say what is 'best'. The F500 is clean and punchy... nice for a modern tone without being overly sizzly up top, or huge down low.

Not sure what your electric deal is down there... if it is 110, then the Markbass stuff from the US is fine. However, if you are 220, then you would have to go with something else, or get a Markbass amp from the EU, since the voltage is 'fixed' on the Markbass amps.

Given you are importing, and again assuming you want a somewhat modern, relatively clean sound for the type of music you play, the Genz Shuttle 9 or Shuttle Max 6 might be the best bet. That Shuttle Max 6 is really cool if you are comfortable with all the knobs... really nice EQ, LOTS of tone, nice power, decent price and 110/220 safe. And if you ever have a problem, the Genz guys in the US would take care of you big time.

The GK stuff is cool also, and the 1001 sounds great... has that 'GK grind and aggressiveness'.

9mmMike · #13 12-09-2010, 10:03 AM

I have 2 AE112's and although I do not stack them often, I use a Shuttle 6.0. I used an LMII and LMIII before that which I also liked but the Shuttle has that tubey goodness that I wanted. I need /want micro heads for easier toting and that influenced my choice quite a bit.
I am very happy with the Shuttle. So much so that I traded my LMIII for another bass. I will probably get another Shuttle 6.0 as a spare somewhere down the line.
I also hook the Shuttle to a GB410 at the church and that is terrific as well.

wengr · #14 12-09-2010, 10:05 AM

Anyone try a MB LMII with this stack?
Thanks Mike, you read my mind.

KJung · #15 12-09-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wengr

Anyone try a MB LMII with this stack?

It sounds very good... fat, warm, smooth. It doesn't hit quite as hard as the F500, and I kind of like the tighter voicing of the F500 with the 112's. However, for clean fingerstyle playing and a touch of old school tone, the LMII/III and the AE112's or AE212 is cool. For slapping or aggressive playing, I ended up needed a little bit more punch, which the F500 gave me. IMO there.

babebambi · #16 12-09-2010, 10:55 AM

the WT550 can turn this stack into an aggressive beast
but with a turn of one knob can also mellow it out

I found the "enhance" on Eden is great at neutralizing that up-mid in the AE cabs when you don't want it.

mophead · #17 12-09-2010, 11:03 AM

I have one AE 212 through a Shttlemax 12 and I like it and so does my back.

There is room for another hookup for another 4 ohm cab. Hmmmmm..........

crdasilva · #18 12-09-2010, 11:55 AM

And about F500... with two AE112, I will have 300 + 300 = 600W...

And the F500 Will send 500W.... is ok? Is this a good thing? I Will lost 100W?

Thanks.

Illinimax · #19 12-09-2010, 02:25 PM

I'm driving 2 AE112 cabs with the LMIII and finding it a little lacking. I need to try the F500 one of these days.

greenboy · #20 12-09-2010, 02:27 PM

Is that Lee Sklar?