Best Amp for Genz Benz NeoX 212T?

69LesPaulBass · #1 03-19-2010, 08:22 AM

Long time lurker, first time poster!

So I just picked up a Shuttle 6.0 and a NeoX 212T and I'm loving the tone. I know a few people here have the same rig and feel the same way.

However, I was wondering if anyone has run a Shuttle 9.0 or another (more powerful) GB amp with the 212T and if it's worth the upgrade.

In other words- what's the best amp for the NeoX 212T?

Cheers!

thedude77md · #2 03-19-2010, 08:25 AM

The 9.0 will just give ya some more juice.

I've used my NeoX 212 with a good dozen different heads and it loved them all. I think it's a question of what type of head you like vs. what will work best w/ the cabinet. My personal favorites were a Mesa M6 or a Fender Bassman 300 Pro in that cabinet but those also happen to be my two favorite heads in general.

klokker · #3 03-19-2010, 09:22 AM

I have the same set up as yourself. The 9.0 will work fine, if you need more power. It also has a little more bottom end to it.

I sure don't need it though. The 6.0 gives me all I need and more.

main_sale · #4 03-19-2010, 09:43 AM

I can tell you that the NeoX 212T works swimmingly with an Ampeg SVT-VR! I'm old school and have the tweeter turned off.

69LesPaulBass · #5 03-19-2010, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by main_sale

I can tell you that the NeoX 212T works swimmingly with an Ampeg SVT-VR!

That's a beauty!

The thing is that the 212T cab is rated at 600W RMS.. and the Shuttle 6.0 puts out 600W @ 4ohms - can the cab handle any more (ie. the Shuttle 9.0 puts out 900W..)?

How hard can we push this guy?!

jnewmark · #6 03-19-2010, 10:21 AM

I use the markbass heads, the F1 and the TA501. The F1 has a little more " in your face " type of tone, but I like the compressor on the TA501. Both are great at 4 ohms, which, imho, is the key to the Markbass 500 watt amps- they seem to come alive at 4 ohms. But the GB Neox 212T is such a great sounding cab anyway. The last few years I've been on a cab trying spree, for finding a one cab solution, and the Neox 212T by far has been the clearest, most articulate sounding cab for me.

Lex P. · #7 03-20-2010, 08:16 AM

I'm looking to pair my Aguilar DB751 with a Genz Benz Neox 212T. I love the head and the reviews of the 212T along with its foot print and weight could really be a winner for me.
Lex

KsPiNeSh · #8 03-20-2010, 10:00 AM

My GBE 1200 and Mesa Fathom (M6) are both killer through the NEOX. Love that cabinet!

thedude77md · #9 03-20-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lex P.

I'm looking to pair my Aguilar DB751 with a Genz Benz Neox 212T. I love the head and the reviews of the 212T along with its foot print and weight could really be a winner for me.
Lex

I ran this for a while (well it was a 750 not a 751) and it was my favorite pairing for that head.

Lex P. · #10 03-20-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thedude77md

I ran this for a while (well it was a 750 not a 751) and it was my favorite pairing for that head.

That is just what I wanted to hear

Now I just have to be patient and find one in the classifieds.

Evolver · #11 03-20-2010, 08:57 PM

I'm running two NeoX212T 's with a GBE750 (on smaller gigs maybe just one cab...). Double the fun!

adamov · #12 03-20-2010, 09:30 PM

I run my GBE 1200, Shuttle 6.0, and occasionally my discontinued GBE 500 H through one of my Neox 212s. It's all good.

rpsands · #13 03-20-2010, 09:31 PM

I would not buy a 9.0 for a Neox212t. The 6.0 is enough to blow it up for sure.

The reason is, the 9.0 can run exactly one Neox 212T, same as the 6, and they can drive it to its potential.

69LesPaulBass · #14 03-21-2010, 08:47 AM

Interesting..just doing some more research on this topic and came upon a post from agedhorse in the Shuttle 9.0 Discussion thread:

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Originally Posted by agedhorse

The Shuttle 6.0 is a more mainstream amp, still probably not the ideal hard-core/metal/thrash amp due to the limited power unless good PA support is available, but will drive larger cabinets with ease. It's voicing includes a HPF with a slightly lower turnover frequency and when combined with the remaining filter and preamp voicing, is more solid into compact and larger cabinets. The LF extend frequency, slope, Q and symmetry is also voiced to improve overall performance into the larger cabinets. The tube voicing also contributes to the perceived warmness, though it's been kept somewhat subtle to be used as a tool rather than jumping out screaming TUBE OVERDRIVE. The Pre-eq DI out is before the HPF's, so into a real PA, there's zero compromise regarding LF bandwidth. This is a popular amp amongst our touring users who must rely on fly dates, it's a simple, straight ahead, compact, lightweight amp with features that a more pro player is likely to need.

The Shuttle 9.0 is very similar to the 6.0, but again has a very slightly lower HPF frequency because we have additional headroom to work with and it's unlikely that this amp would be used (at high volumes or extended low end) with sub-compact cabinets, so we have more margin to work with. The 9.0 pairs nicely with cabinets from the compact (like Neo-X 212) on up, but I caution against expecting such performance with sub-compact speakers like the STL series (or those by other manufacturers) since the amp has too much power and runs the risk of overdriving models without adequate power handling and LF excursion limiting tuning. The 9.0 would be an amp to consider for all styles provided it's paired up to a cabinet that's also suitable.

unclekebm · #15 03-31-2010, 12:02 PM

GK MB2-500 with a NeoX212t is awesome!
IMO thicker and deeper than the Shuttle 6.0