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Old 12-20-2011, 09:13 PM
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So heres the low down guys. I'm looking for a good strong half stack or something like that. Preferably one cabinet(like a 410 or something) and an amp. Right now I'm running an Ampeg pf 500 with an SWR 410(workingman). Should I invest in getting a new cabinet(like an Ampeg 410 to match the amp) or should I go in a different direction and move to GK? Whats the best half stack style rig right now? I want power and general affordability.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:22 PM
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On the left is a Reeves C400/Reeves 410 half stack. Power and superb tone out the wazoo, but not exaclty bargain bin pricing.

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Old 12-20-2011, 09:35 PM
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Dang, I bet it sounds sweet! I don't need bargain pricing just not a $1000 head and an $800 cab. I really am wondering if I should go Ampeg. I'm sure this SWR cab doesn't do the head justice. But I'd want a 4 ohm cab that could handle it.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:44 PM
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The SVT 410HLF could handle it no problem. So could the 410HE, but it runs at 8 ohms and is voiced more like the 810e, whereas the 410HLF goes extremely low. Some folks like the extreme lows, but I've always been happy with the 810e's lows, and the wattage difference only gives you a slight volume bump, so I'd get the 410HE. Matter of opinion there, though. The Workingman stuff is good for what it is, but it is a budget cab, and it always sounds better to have a good cab. The cab is actually the most important link in the chain. You can have a crap bass and head and a good cab and it'll sound great, but if you have a great bass, great head, and crap cab, it'll never sound any better than the crap cab. Workingman cabs aren't crap, but there's better.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:49 PM
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also, the smaller 4Ω cab can be a trap; it isn't that much louder than the identical 8Ω cab, but now you can't add another cab under your 4Ω minimum bass head should you need it.

a 4Ω cab should be big enough that you'd never need to add to it for normal gigs, like the classic 8x10 or 2x5, or even many 6x10s.
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I want power and general affordability.
the cheapest option that doesn't waste what you already have is another identical workingman's 4x10.
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The SVT 410HLF could handle it no problem. So could the 410HE, but it runs at 8 ohms and is voiced more like the 810e, whereas the 410HLF goes extremely low. Some folks like the extreme lows, but I've always been happy with the 810e's lows, and the wattage difference only gives you a slight volume bump, so I'd get the 410HE. Matter of opinion there, though. The Workingman stuff is good for what it is, but it is a budget cab, and it always sounds better to have a good cab. The cab is actually the most important link in the chain. You can have a crap bass and head and a good cab and it'll sound great, but if you have a great bass, great head, and crap cab, it'll never sound any better than the crap cab. Workingman cabs aren't crap, but there's better.
So I WILL notice a difference if I played everything through one of those two cans? As opposed to my current set up?
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So I WILL notice a difference if I played everything through one of those two cans? As opposed to my current set up?
Definitely.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:25 PM
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Very good, that's what I'm looking for. Looks like I've got work to do!
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:26 PM
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So heres the low down guys. I'm looking for a good strong half stack or something like that. Preferably one cabinet(like a 410 or something) and an amp. Right now I'm running an Ampeg pf 500 with an SWR 410(workingman). Should I invest in getting a new cabinet(like an Ampeg 410 to match the amp) or should I go in a different direction and move to GK? Whats the best half stack style rig right now? I want power and general affordability.
Power you get from the amp, not cab

So, what kind of tone do you want from the cab?
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:31 PM
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I guess just a good smooth clean tone. I guess I want a nice meaty low end. My head has all the power I could want I'm pretty sure, it's just that dang cab I guess;(
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Orange TB1k + DNA DNS410. Look no further.
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You should bring your head and bass to a store where you can try the cabinet. Only you know the tone you want to hear.
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Got it!! 410 hlf!! It's a HUGE improvement!
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