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07-11-2012, 03:56 AM
|  | Registered User Authorized fEARful/FEARLESS/greenboy designs builder | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Nashville, TN | | | Used to run a CA9...really nice amp...too darn heavy to throw in my bass rig...
Torn between a Crown XTI and a Peavey IPR. Like the input sensitivity on the Peavey, and like some of the options on the Crown...both are getting good reports from players. Wanna keep things kinda light, personally. | 
07-11-2012, 04:57 AM
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07-11-2012, 06:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY | | | I use a pair of QSC PLX2-1804 amps in my PA. I recently picked up a QSC GX7 (much lighter than the GX5 thanks to the power supply) and I really like it.
In my situation bridging doesn't make much sense as I have no speakers that can handle such crazy high wattage. I suppose that is for situations where you have a prewired line array that can actually use >1000W. I prefer to Y-cable the input and send each channel to a pair of speakers on one side of the stage or the other. | 
07-11-2012, 10:14 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego | | | Best Poweramp The Glockenklang Bugatti is an awesome 800 watt power amp. There is a 2X300 watt version of the same amp that is sold as an audiophile amplifier. It is not cheap, but you asked for the best so that should come as no surprise...
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07-11-2012, 10:16 AM
|  | In case you missed it, I work for QSC Audio! Applications Engineer, QSC Audio | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Costa Mesa, Calif. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by pablomigraine Ask one of them why amp companies like QSC make several totally different amps designed for the same application, producing the same wattage and one is 3 times the price of the other...if they all sound the same, why don't they just make one? | Why don't you ask, then?
Different model ranges have different features, levels of performance, etc. And yet there's no reason for any of them to alter the signal enough to "sound different." It's possible for even cheap amps these days to be ultra-transparent in normal usage; whether they are or not is up to the designer and manufacturer. | 
07-11-2012, 10:29 AM
|  | Conform or Be Cast Out.... | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Central Ohio | | | so I run a Yamaha P3500S...where is that in the line up of quality? Low...middle hi? I love the sound it gets, and always assume that Yamaha is at least in the middle of the field....but if I could find something better sounding, and a bit lighter, that would be cool...
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07-11-2012, 11:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boston | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Lee (QSC) Why don't you ask, then?
Different model ranges have different features, levels of performance, etc. And yet there's no reason for any of them to alter the signal enough to "sound different." It's possible for even cheap amps these days to be ultra-transparent in normal usage; whether they are or not is up to the designer and manufacturer. | Love Bob from QSC. Great posts man. I agree with Pablo as well. Just because an amp is clear & ultra-transparent doesnt make it a good amp. Personally I'm looking for the amp... kinda like the OP is... one that is ultra reliable, handles voltage spikes better, stronger build, handles heat better etc
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07-11-2012, 11:29 AM
|  | In case you missed it, I work for QSC Audio! Applications Engineer, QSC Audio | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Costa Mesa, Calif. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by xUptheIronsx so I run a Yamaha P3500S...where is that in the line up of quality? Low...middle hi? I love the sound it gets, and always assume that Yamaha is at least in the middle of the field....but if I could find something better sounding, and a bit lighter, that would be cool... | IMHO, Yamaha makes some very good power amps. They don't get a lot of attention in the US--not to the extent that their sound reinforcement mixing consoles do--but it seems they're quite popular in some European countries. | 
11-01-2012, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jsbarber The Glockenklang Bugatti is an awesome 800 watt power amp. There is a 2X300 watt version of the same amp that is sold as an audiophile amplifier. It is not cheap, but you asked for the best so that should come as no surprise...
Jim | +1 | 
11-01-2012, 11:59 AM
| | | | I recently got the Glckenklang Bugatti 300,and thats pure sound. | 
11-01-2012, 12:06 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Falls Church, VA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by JGR Crest CA9 is a benchmark. | A huge +1 on that. I had a CA4 that was simply the bomb from a sonic perspective. If not for the weight, size and bulk, I'd still have it. I don't know if Crest makes them anymore, but I see CA6s and CA9s for sale cheap on the used market all the time and they are major workhorses. | 
11-01-2012, 12:47 PM
| | Registered User Proprietor Springvale Studios | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ipswich UK | | Umm! Look the bloke actually said best so, he didn't say lightest, he didn't say cheep and Chinese with no effective warranty and of course he wouldn't want it fan cooled  so nobody on this entire board has come up with anything like a definitive answer.
Look if you want a proper power amplifier that has no built in hovercraft
that sounds far better than Sea monkey has ever heard and has a no quibble 20 year guarantee.
The name is Bryston ain't you heard of it: 
You said best!.  | 
11-01-2012, 02:43 PM
| | | Brian Russell trying to carry his own creation
It's a great sounding amp. It's weight and price have nothing to do with it. Bryston class-d amps are also great.
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11-03-2012, 12:31 PM
|  | There are some who call me.......Sactobass | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sacramento California | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bassmec Look the bloke actually said best so, he didn't say lightest, he didn't say cheep and Chinese with no effective warranty and of course he wouldn't want it fan cooled  so nobody on this entire board has come up with anything like a definitive answer.
Look if you want a proper power amplifier that has no built in hovercraft
that sounds far better than Sea monkey has ever heard and has a no quibble 20 year guarantee.
The name is Bryston ain't you heard of it: 
You said best!.  | Nice amps! For us blokes over here in the US, are there dealers on this side of the pond who carry Bryston amps?
EDIT: nevermind. I found the answer, which is "yes". I did a USA dealer search from the Bryston website.
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11-04-2012, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jsbarber The Glockenklang Bugatti is an awesome 800 watt power amp. There is a 2X300 watt version of the same amp that is sold as an audiophile amplifier. It is not cheap, but you asked for the best so that should come as no surprise...
Jim | +1
Recently added one Bugatti 300,and its pure sound | 
11-04-2012, 08:14 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by SactoBass Nice amps! For us blokes over here in the US, are there dealers on this side of the pond who carry Bryston amps?
EDIT: nevermind. I found the answer, which is "yes". I did a USA dealer search from the Bryston website. | This side of the pond?
They are Canadian made amps. Canadian company.
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11-04-2012, 09:01 AM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston,Tx | | | I've used a Crown XTi 2000 on many gigs .... been happy with it .... somewhat lite, weight wise | 
11-30-2012, 01:13 AM
| | | | Crown K1 or K2. Can be had for 300 or 400 dollars used. | 
11-30-2012, 07:21 AM
| | | | I have had both Crown and QSC. As mentioned above you have to watch the sensitivity of the amp in relation to the preamp or mixer you drive it with. Often there isn't much way to know what will work in the real world. Never had a problem with QSC. | 
11-30-2012, 07:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Chester, PA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by pbassnut A huge +1 on that. I had a CA4 that was simply the bomb from a sonic perspective. If not for the weight, size and bulk, I'd still have it. | +1. Loved my CA4. But heavy!!!!
QSCs are also great amps. I've had good results with Carvin as well.
I'm really curious though about the Crest ProLites. Anyone using that amp?
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