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11-04-2010, 03:05 AM
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Hey there.
I'm a cellist playing with a folk/rock band ( www.myspace.com/hesmybrothershesmysister). I am looking to buy a combo amp that's got enough headroom to fill a 1,000 seater at least.
Been looking at Ashdowns' combos, Genz Benz Shuttle 6 112 and a couple others (tc electronics 450 combo).
Any thoughts??
Any advice?
Looking for something with enough power but also with some resonance and natural harmonics in it... |
11-04-2010, 03:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles | | | PS - I generally like a pretty funky fuzzy bass sound, and EQ wise i like it as SIMPLE as possible. Ampegs etc. with the 'style' knobs dont' do it for me. Have been appreciating the simplicity of the TC electronics & the Ashdown EVO III. |
11-04-2010, 07:29 AM
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11-04-2010, 07:40 AM
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11-04-2010, 09:14 AM
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Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North central Ohio | | Two of the loudest 500-watt combos that I have tried are the TC BG500/115 and the Ibanez Promethean 5210. Neither of them have a tube in the preamp, but they both sound very full and rich, and they will both knock your socks off!  
The GK MB212 is another strong contender, though I have not gigged with one.
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11-05-2010, 01:28 AM
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11-05-2010, 01:29 AM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | ampegs have style knobs? really? i've played tons of different ampeg amps and don't recall ever seeing one with a "style" knob.
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11-05-2010, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM  ampegs have style knobs? really? i've played tons of different ampeg amps and don't recall ever seeing one with a "style" knob. | Yup. Controls the mid shape. 
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11-05-2010, 02:14 AM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | are you talking about the mid frequency selector knob? hell, that's the best thing about ampeg amps!
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11-05-2010, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM are you talking about the mid frequency selector knob? hell, that's the best thing about ampeg amps! | I think I'll try "3" today 
I had to do some research the first time I ran into one of those. |
11-05-2010, 02:29 AM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | 3 is the one i use on all ampegs. except for the svt-vr or vintage svt's, where i use 2. but 800 hz is the frequency i use to make the notes pop out and be heard through a mix, and on hybrid ampegs and the svt-cl, that's 3.
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11-05-2010, 02:35 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Berkeley, CA | | | Ha. "3" was a total shot in the dark. Thing is, I don't own an ampeg and fairly infrequently end up playing through them, so I can never remember what setting I liked from last time. If they actually listed the frequencies I'd be much better off. iPhone comes in handy in these situations, I should bookmark that page. |
11-05-2010, 02:36 AM
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11-05-2010, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM are you talking about the mid frequency selector knob? hell, that's the best thing about ampeg amps! | Yup,
Ampeg was giving us 'models' before there were modeling amps!
Joe. |
11-05-2010, 03:38 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Switzerland | | | For that size of room, you need a decent PA more than you need a loud amplifier. A 35 watt amp will do just fine with a good PA. I strongly recommend a good balanced mix out to your audience, controlled by a good soundman. You need a decent stage sound for you and who ever else wants to hear you onstage. But don't blast away or the band could sound like crap.
That being said, having a powerful amp is always handy for gigs where you do not have PA support and you are only running vocals through your PA. But for that size room, do the band a favour and hire a good sized pa and run through the board.
My CHF $.02
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11-05-2010, 04:00 AM
| | | | I reccomend the biggest amp you can afford/pack around. My experience is the more watts the better it sounds. So if you want the best sound???? Down side: costs more and you need a bunch of friends to pack it around.
Me??? I use 100 watts with acoustic players, 300watts if there is a drummer involved, and 1200 watts for gigging.
YMMV
With that all said, amplifying acoustic instruments can get really tricky. A giant amplifier next to that big box with a pu may make a feed back problem so bad the amp might seem unusable. If that is the case your best bet is let the soundman cover the audience and your personal amp is now just a monitor.
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11-05-2010, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by James Judson I reccomend the biggest amp you can afford/pack around. My experience is the more watts the better it sounds. | 
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11-05-2010, 07:47 AM
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11-05-2010, 08:54 AM
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