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Old 07-29-2011, 08:14 PM
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BFM Jack 10 initial impressions.

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I received the cab not too long ago from Leland at speakerhardware.com, an authorized BFM builder. It's seems very solidly built even if it doesn't exactly have the polish of some of the higher end commercial cabs. I haven't had the chance to use it in a band situation as practice has been put off for two weeks now.

Compared side by side with my Acme Low B2 at bedroom levels with the same amp settings, there is a stark difference in tone and initial volume. The Jack 10 is quieter, and has a dry papery honk where the Acme has a full, deep sound that seemed louder. Now this may be because it's an apples to oranges comparison as the Jack 10 is 8 ohms while the Acme is a 4 ohm and has 2x10 inch drivers.

Some say the direct radiators has it's own pleasant coloration and a horn loaded cab doesn't have this coloration. That may be true but I believe horns have their own brand of coloration as well which some may find not so pleasant. The Jack 10 also has a sensitivity hump going up from 250 hz to about 1K or so according to the SPL graphs and this may explain the honk. This is where the tone controls of the amp really come into play. An enhance or countour type tone control really shines with the Jack 10 at lower volumes and dials out the unpleasant honk and ups the bass, leaving only the slight dry papery tone. Maybe the driver needs more break in. Funny thing was the enhance control on my Thunderfunk does not have too much effect with the Acme cab so the Jack 10 is sensitive to tone controls. Switching back to the Acmes, I am suprised at how much clearer the Jack 10 sounds.

All this cork sniffing tone descriptions don’t amount to a hill of beans when things get cranked up and the Jack 10 turns into a different beast. At our practice space at a band member's garage, we got things in the garage to rattle pretty good pushing the Jack 10. At that volume the enhance tone control doesn't seem to do much, maybe due to the way the ear responds to higher volume frequencies (equal loudness contours). I did not push the cab into farting but it seems more than loud enough for what we're doing. It's hard for me to describe the quality of the tone at those higher volmes except it is clear and wasn't bad and because a lot of it also depends on the amp. It also wasn't in a band setting and we had a bunch of stuff rattling in the garage distracting my evaluation. I wished I had a roadie and a larger car just so I could have brought the Acme over too for a comparison. I'm a wimp when it comes to weight as I've tweaked my neck muscles too many times.

So far the Jack 10 has met the criteria of being loud enough (probably), one hand luggable at 35 lbs vs carrying a 50lb weight up and down my 2nd floor apartment and can fit into the passenger seat of my Miata. I'll update once I get my other bandmates impressions after we get some practice in.




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Old 07-30-2011, 06:34 PM
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What woofer is loaded in it?

It sounds to me like you had it preassembled. I didn't know that was an option from speakerhardware.com.

BTW, the cab looks fantastic! Maybe someday I'll pull the trigger and get three or four of them.
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Old 07-30-2011, 06:56 PM
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It should be quite a lot lighter than 35lbs, but maybe not. My Jack 12 came in at 40 or so with the big melded array and everything. I would expect 30ish.

The big thing with the equal loudness contours is important. Jacks sound extremely weedy at low volumes--the equal loudness curve makes the midrange honk exaggerated greatly.

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Old 07-30-2011, 07:57 PM
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It has the Deltalite 2510 II, I believe. Leland does sell the cabs complete as he is also an authorized BFM builder. I placed the order on May 30th and it was ready to ship Jul 11. Leland had to wait a month for a shipment of tweeters and he was understaffed at one point and was/is in the process of ramping up his facilities. I believe he has since delegated a lot of the work he has to do, so orders would probably be filled much quicker now. He had made it known what the lead time was and I was in no rush. We kept in communication so I knew what was going on.

The cab also comes with a pop under foot to angle the cab up so that may have added some weight.

@rpsands, thanks. It was also partly due to your reviews that I decided to get one built by Leland.

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Old 07-30-2011, 08:02 PM
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Your Jack looks great. I find mine fills a room pretty convincingly.

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The drummer didn't show up for practice today but based on what the two other guitarist were doing, I can say with some confidence the Jack 10 will handle our gigs no problem. I used my new GK MB200 with the Jack and I think they play very well together as the GK preamp has a natural mid scooped tone and boosted bass. I think I may like the tone of the MB200 with the Jack even better than the Thunderfunk. There's something chewy about the mids on the MB200 than I dig. The Jack at volumes above bedroom level is quite "transparent" and really shows what the amp is doing.I think the speaker broke in some today and I'm liking the tone. One of these days, I'll get a higher powered class D amp to use with the Jack 10 for even better dynamics and definition at high volumes. Maybe a Markbass F500 or somesuch when I can afford it.
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Old 08-01-2011, 06:05 AM
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One of these days, I'll get a higher powered class D amp to use with the Jack 10 for even better dynamics and definition at high volumes. Maybe a Markbass F500 or somesuch when I can afford it.
Don't lose sight of the fact that it is a 1x10, so having more than 200 watts/8 ohms won't make any difference. As far as total output goes the 6dB sensitivity increase from using two cabs is the equivalent of increasing your amp size by a factor of four, so where bang for the buck is concerned it's with a second cab, not a larger amp.
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Oh hey, Bill. Thanks for the advice and I'm aware of those limits and that adding cabs is the way to go for more volume. However it's not pure volume I'm after, as a single Jack 10 is loud enough for me. It's the quality of the tone as the volume goes higher that I'm shooting for. The MB200 only does 140 watts at 8 ohms so it hits it's limit before the cab does. My Thunderfunk is supposed to be rated at 500 watts at 4 ohms but I think that rating might be a bit optimistic given the size of the transformer. It's power supply is designed to sag way before even being close to hitting that power figure. Besides, 2 Jack 10's aren't going to fit in a Miata anyhow :>.
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Congratulations on your cab. I once owned a Acme Low B2 myself. I now own a Jack 210 and 2 single 10s. With a second cab the mid-range hump you mention does smooth out and they sound a lot fuller. I think in a band context a single sounds great as that mid bump really helps to cut through. Enjoy!
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:39 AM
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With a second cab the mid-range hump you mention does smooth out and they sound a lot fuller.
A second cab (or a 2x10) gives +6dB additional voltage sensitivity below 200Hz, but only +2dB from 500Hz on up, so there's a lot of smoothing. With four cabs (or two 2x10s) things really smooth out, with response pretty much flat. This is because of the horn loading, which gives a very different result with cab stacking than direct radiators.
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I'll have to get around to trying all 4 at some point. I stacked them up but my amp only handles down to 4 ohms. Need to hook up a power amp sometime.
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You could try running parallel two pairs of series speakers for a total load of 8 ohms. Ymmv.
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:47 AM
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It should be quite a lot lighter than 35lbs, but maybe not.
Your jack is Auraco. This is BB. I have discontinued Auraco as an option for the kits, and discourage it for cabs. It's just too hard in my humid/hot Kansas weather to keep it flat. The only thing I use it for is internals on horn subs to keep the weight down, and then only on short panels.

Glad you like it Wing. I see in my haste to ship I forgot to touch up the screw holes on the back. It also appears to have some blemishes from shipping.

Wing I appreciate your patience during construction. Everything was a mess. Especially trying to get the tweeters. I was out for over two months. I shoot for a couple of weeks for Jacks, but it always seems to end up being 3.
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