Big E Speakers

[mntngrown]

Based on the previous videos and what I hear playing music through this cab, they will please your customers

[NorCal Dog]

Originally Posted by mntngrown

Based on the previous videos and what I hear playing music through this cab, they will please your customers

the main reason that i had Mike build me a cab was the dispersion properties that i heard in that first vid. & was again reinforced in the vid that Leland made.

i guess that i'm over cabs that sound killer while you're standing directly in front of it, but then take 3 steps to the left & everything drops out.

i'm sure the tone of the 4x8 with the OEM drivers will be awesome,, but i want to hear that awesome wherever i'm at on stage & i want the audience to experience the awesome as well, regardless of where they're at in the room.

what's your initial thoughts on the dispersion mntngrown ?

[nostatic]

After talking with Mike, I'm looking forward to running the 4x6 "vertical". Not only a small footprint, but should be easy to hear when I'm forced close to the cab.

[Mike Arnopol]

I should also mention to Nor Cal and Mountain to try their 4 x 8's both ways--it's pretty cool--the tonal presentation is VERY different. Again, I always would put my cabs on a chair. With the Big E's vertical is like on a chair---but with great bass coupling to the floor, too. Again--try them both ways. I've never needed to put a Big E on a chair.

[NorCal Dog]

will probably be running it vert. most of the time & running it either with my Genz 9.0 or my Fender 100T, which comes in at 24" wide, but i'll check it out both ways

[mntngrown]

It definitely spreads out to the side with the crossfiring.
Can't wait for gig circumstances. I will let you know if we get one soon Nor Cal, and you too if you beat me to it.

[Mike Arnopol]

The TB'er buying this cab asked if I could post some pics. This is a 2 x 6.5 that is designed to run by itself or with a 4 x 6. I added an impedance switch. I recess mounted it using a part for an Eminence attenuator. It switches from 4 ohms with the tweeter on (for use by itself) and 16 ohms with the tweeter off (to combine with a 4 x 6). When combined with the 4 x 6 the total impedance is 5.3 ohms. I'll balance the 4 x 6 just slightly hotter in the high end. Maybe put an attenuator switch in. (for the tweet)This way all of the speakers see the same amount of power.

[MarkA]

Nice, Mike! I think this (switchable 2x6 + 4x6) is one of the options we discussed a few weeks back. What are the dimensions on the 2x6 and the 4x6 again (apologies if they've already been posted)?

What other options, Ohms wise, are available for the 2x6 and 4x6 cabs?

While I'm being a pest, I know that we also discussed that my Mesa Walkabout (165 watts at 8 Ohms, 300 watts at 4 Ohms, 450-500 watts at 2 Ohms) might be on the anemic side to take proper advantage of these cabs, but it just occurred to me that two of the 2x6s set to 4 Ohms would present a 2 Ohm load...

Thinking aloud. Might not be worth it -- I'd be sacrificing two cones to get down to 2 Ohms. I do have my Shuttlemax 12.0 -- and there are other options -- but I was practicing through the Boogie last night and there are some sweet tones available at low volume. I've run out of steam (at least "clean" steam) with it live, though, and that was no fun.

Back on topic: Cab looks good!

Originally Posted by Mike Arnopol

The TB'er buying this cab asked if I could post some pics. This is a 2 x 6.5 that is designed to run by itself or with a 4 x 6. I added an impedance switch. I recess mounted it using a part for an Eminence attenuator. It switches from 4 ohms with the tweeter on (for use by itself) and 16 ohms with the tweeter off (to combine with a 4 x 6). When combined with the 4 x 6 the total impedance is 5.3 ohms. I'll balance the 4 x 6 just slightly hotter in the high end. Maybe put an attenuator switch in. (for the tweet)This way all of the speakers see the same amount of power.

[nostatic]

So has anyone (Mike?) run a pair of 4x6s stacked vertically? That seems like it would be a killer low-footprint rig that would keep up with any combination of drummer and guitarists.

[mntngrown]

So there is a little club in my town that somehow gets jazz greats to play there, on their way passing through, so to speak. My town is about mid way between San Francisco and Monterey CA. I have seen Larry Carlton and Marcus Miller and Dave Weckl and Robben Ford and Jimmy Herring and Joe Pass there and missed Stanley Clark due to conflict.
It is worth mentioning that Mike Arnopol has played this club multiple times as well as venues across large bodies of water. No not just the Great lakes So he kinda has a clue.
I think he dialed in to my specific cab need based on me telling him what I do. I think that he will suggest which cab might work beat for you if you pm him. That idea of 2 4x6.5 would be great based only on my reading of the Chicago GTG responses. I would have considered that but I am a cheap Bastage.

[mntngrown]

"Best for you". By the way nostatic this is a generic post for everyone interested. You are one of my favorite posters on TB.
Nothing implied as a specific response to your question.
Other than if I had unlimited funds I might have gone with 2 4x6.5 or 2 ,2x8 new OEMs. Of course in 6 months or so I am guessing composite builds too!

[nostatic]

Kuumbwa? I saw Hiromi there with Anthony Jackson earlier this year.

Mike and I talked this weekend (Mike, sorry I had to cut it short - my wife was patiently waiting for dim sum ). I ordered a 4x6 based on my tone goals and the kind of gigs I play, which are all over the map, from small clubs to outdoor festivals. I also have a TC212 cab on order from Mike but I like going modular and like the small footprint of the 4x6 vertical - especially the 12" depth. Just curious if anyone had run a pair of them stacked. Now the waiting is the hard part. I wonder if bribes work

[mntngrown]

Dats da club. You might get some unofficial grease cause you gig a lot in the south land. There is There/There on these cabs, even though I am just a boogie blues and SRV hack.
I will not wax poetic till after my 1st gig with it.
Enjoy!

[wave rider]

[tangent alert]
Please, someone start a Kuumbwa gig alert thread; I'd really enjoy hearing you folks play there.
[/tangent alert]

Mike's cabs are looking great! His comment about fixing a dent on one squashed my vague daydream of "Hot Deal™" scratch and dent super sale...



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[lelandcrooks]

Originally Posted by nostatic

So has anyone (Mike?) run a pair of 4x6s stacked vertically? That seems like it would be a killer low-footprint rig that would keep up with any combination of drummer and guitarists.

Except the new BigE guitar cab. It's the freaking loudest thing I've ever heard. A 2x12 I swear will bury a full stack. That's just conjecture, I've never played a full stack.

[kerrycares]

I'm waiting to hip all of the Motown upright players to Mike's M45 cab.
I'm sure if they're as good as the reviews the pros will really enjoy them in addition to all the colleges including MSU, U of M,Wayne State, Oakland, Schoolcraft, Henry Ford and the High School jazz programs as well.

[christw]

are we there yet?

Sorry, I had to!

[NorCal Dog]

Mike just called,, my 4x8 is boxed & being shipped out today

[Mike Arnopol]

In testing NorCal's cab (4 x 8) and a 6x6 to a local player I found that when I opened the front door that a lot of the bass loading in small rooms (as I've mentioned before) was greatly diminished.

Only problem---got busted by the police because someone a half block away complained. Mission accomplished!

[NorCal Dog]

Originally Posted by Mike Arnopol

Only problem---got busted by the police because someone a half block away complained. Mission accomplished!

hahaha,,, i hate it when that happens