Big E Speakers

[VegasGutPlucker]

Originally Posted by Mike Arnopol

A note to the 4 x 5 guys---....It should keep up with a 2 x 10. I had it up against my Crazy 88. Similar volume limits. (much better sounding IMO) I dug it so much with electric that I'm going to try 2 of them with a Fdeck HPF on a loud electric gig.

How'd that experiment go? Can't wait to check one out.

[Mike Arnopol]

pics of the first 4 x 5 to ship tomorrow

[Badong]

Pretty!

The logo badge looks great.

[coyoteboy]

Ooh! I wanna hear my electric cello through that!

Does the 2x5 have the same updated design?

[Mike Arnopol]

Originally Posted by coyoteboy

Ooh! I wanna hear my electric cello through that!

Does the 2x5 have the same updated design?

yup

[NorCal Dog]

Originally Posted by christw

man, these cabs look awesome

now that you've spent a bit of time with them, how they sounding with that 300Pro ?

[Mike Arnopol]

so as not to put Christw in an uncomfortable position---

there is an intermittent problem with the wiring of one cabinet---he's sending it back for me to fix.

Good news---
I've been having problems with shipping. I've gone out of my way to properly pack the cabs. Still problems here and there. Fedex routinely drops boxes from 6 feet I've been told.I finally remembered that a good friend has a business where he packs and ships fragile antiques and artwork around the world. Turns out that the way I've been packing cabs has pretty much allowed shocks to the box be transmitted to the cab. I've been using 3/4" pink foam all around and about 3/4" of bubble wrap around the speaker. Apparently this is not good. So---I'm following his advice (a lot more expensive) and using double boxes with 1" polyethelene foam between the cab and a double strength box and then another 1" of the same foam between the inner and outer box. Expensive and a lot of work---but better than shipping cabs back and forth!

Man---what an education in my unexpected business pursuit!

[Stumbo]

Originally Posted by Mike Arnopol

so as not to put Christw in an uncomfortable position---

there is an intermittent problem with the wiring of one cabinet---he's sending it back for me to fix.

Good news---
I've been having problems with shipping. I've gone out of my way to properly pack the cabs. Still problems here and there. Fedex routinely drops boxes from 6 feet I've been told.I finally remembered that a good friend has a business where he packs and ships fragile antiques and artwork around the world. Turns out that the way I've been packing cabs has pretty much allowed shocks to the box be transmitted to the cab. I've been using 3/4" pink foam all around and about 3/4" of bubble wrap around the speaker. Apparently this is not good. So---I'm following his advice (a lot more expensive) and using double boxes with 1" polyethelene foam between the cab and a double strength box and then another 1" of the same foam between the inner and outer box. Expensive and a lot of work---but better than shipping cabs back and forth!

Man---what an education in my unexpected business pursuit!

I also suggest putting "corners" either in the inside or outside box. Probably the outside box to stabilize the inside box and keep corner "hits" from transferring to the inner box/speaker box.

[KJung]

Originally Posted by Stumbo

I also suggest putting "corners" either in the inside or outside box. Probably the outside box to stabilize the inside box and keep corner "hits" from transferring to the inner box/speaker box.

+1 To Mike, IMO the best protection and least cost/weight is to kind of 'float' the cab within a heavy duty box by using heavy duty foam corner peices. This seems to direct any sort of drops or shocks to the corners of the cab, where I assume the cab is the strongest. I've had many cabs shipped to me like this with no problem. Plastic wrap around the cab, then the cab suspended by the corners, and a heavy duty single box. Seems to work very well, keeps down the weight and cost, and again, does a good job of transfering stress away from the meat of the cabinet.

[tombowlus]

Originally Posted by KJung

+1 To Mike, IMO the best protection and least cost/weight is to kind of 'float' the cab within a heavy duty box by using heavy duty foam corner peices. This seems to result in any sort of drops or shocks to the corners of the cab, where I assume the cab is the strongest. I've had many cabs shipped to me like this with no problem. Plastic wrap around the cab, then the cab suspended by the corners, and a heavy duty single box. Seems to work very well, keeps down the weight and cost, and again, does a good job of transfering stress away from the meat of the cabinet.

+1 I receive/send cabs sent like this all the time, with no problems.

[bb03]

Originally Posted by Badong

The logo badge looks great.

+1

Can we get a closeup pic?

[HartDesignsEtc]

Originally Posted by bb03

+1

Can we get a closeup pic?

[R Baer]

Hey Mike,
The new designs look great. Very interesting stuff indeed and I love the out of the box (pun intended) thinking behind these. Do the folks at Big E also have anything to do with the Yorkville Paraline cabinets or are these cabs designed using a different type of technology?

[lelandcrooks]

Originally Posted by coyoteboy

Ooh! I wanna hear my electric cello through that!

Does the 2x5 have the same updated design?

Actually there is a dedicated cab coming just for string instruments like the cello and up. At least the acoustic versions. Going to be a bit though, there's a lot on all of our plates right now.

[OtisRocks]

Originally Posted by R Baer

Hey Mike,
The new designs look great. Very interesting stuff indeed and I love the out of the box (pun intended) thinking behind these. Do the folks at Big E also have anything to do with the Yorkville Paraline cabinets or are these cabs designed using a different type of technology?

I think this was asked and answered way back in the thread (start at post #154). I believe the short answer was that the Big E uses an internal waveguide mechanism that differs from the Yorkville.

[coyoteboy]

Originally Posted by lelandcrooks

Actually there is a dedicated cab coming just for string instruments like the cello and up. At least the acoustic versions. Going to be a bit though, there's a lot on all of our plates right now.

Interesting, wonder why they would need a dedicated design?

[Bmorefoozler]

Originally Posted by coyoteboy

Interesting, wonder why they would need a dedicated design?

Need? Well they wouldn't need the low end extension and therefore could use a lower cost driver... just speculation.

[thumbknuckle]

Originally Posted by lelandcrooks

You will see data in about 6 weeks.

This was posted 12 weeks ago, has any hard data been made available?

[christw]

Originally Posted by Mike Arnopol

so as not to put Christw in an uncomfortable position---

there is an intermittent problem with the wiring of one cabinet---he's sending it back for me to fix.

Thanks Mike... I've been stupid busy with leaving the old job and working out a new one in a different city but I'll have it back to you, I swear!

[coyoteboy]

Originally Posted by Bmorefoozler

Need? Well they wouldn't need the low end extension and therefore could use a lower cost driver... just speculation.

Youre right. I was thinking of an "acoustic" flavored speaker being unnecessary because of the purported wide frequency response of the BigE design. Just pick your size. I wouldn't choose anything "lighter" than the 5x design for cello, for example.

All that being said, I'm not sure driver cost difference would be much considering the majority of the cost is in enclosure construction. Then again, there are up to six of them. It now occurs to me that i don't know enough to comment of this design, even in passing, so there you go.

I still want to hear some elec. cello through the 5x. ;-)