Bugera 1960 for bass

[johnp352]

thanks for the real world testing, we appreciate it.

[christw]

Bugera 1960 with super bass mods listed in Somerset, KY craigslist for $150:

http://lexington.craigslist.org/msg/3186507430.html

[BillyB_from_LZ]

Originally Posted by christw

Bugera 1960 with super bass mods listed in Somerset, KY craigslist for $150:

http://lexington.craigslist.org/msg/3186507430.html

Good thing I don't live near there... My wife would not be happy when I came home with "her van" (as she calls it) filled with new toys for me!

[krdavis32]

Finally played the Bugera 1960 in a live setting. I spent the last 2 days before the show dialing in just enough OD I like, just to have the sound guy use a DI box and squashed the OD. At least the stage sound was good. Lesson learned, I will request it be miked.

[bigchiefbc]

Originally Posted by krdavis32

Finally played the Bugera 1960 in a live setting. I spent the last 2 days before the show dialing in just enough OD I like, just to have the sound guy use a DI box and squashed the OD. At least the stage sound was good. Lesson learned, I will request it be miked.

Ugh, that stinks. Yeah, gently insisting on being mic'd is something I've grown the courage to do since I got my 1960. I found that bringing your own mic and mic stand makes the sound guy more likely to listen to you.

[WingKL]

There are also speaker DIs like the Radial JDX that could give you the OD of your head without the mic'ing hassles.

[Roadkill]

Originally Posted by WingKL

There are also speaker DIs like the Radial JDX that could give you the OD of your head without the mic'ing hassles.

I've actually found a mic to be the lesser hassel - YMMV.

[bigchiefbc]

I just wanted to bump this thread to say that I've been gigging with the 1960 now pretty steadily, and I'm totally psyched with my sound now. The last two weeks I've played 3 gigs. One really small place, I played with no FOH, and used a power soak to bring the volume down a bit; one medium sized place, no FOH no power soak; one bigger place, mic'd with FOH and subs. In all 3 situations, totally pleased and got a lot of compliments on my sound during breaks and at closing.

To anyone second-guessing whether to give this thing a shot ... do it. Just try it. It's a fantastic amp.

[Darkonar]

Bumping this thread!
I read the whole thread, and I stil want this head, though my only concern would be the bass drop off curve, was it like 80hz? Since I play a 5 string tuned to standard D and I also drop it to C for my other stoner/doom metal band. Would that drop off affect my tone making my lower notes undistinguishably muddy (especially the low G string) ?

[christw]

Originally Posted by Darkonar

Bumping this thread!
I read the whole thread, and I stil want this head, though my only concern would be the bass drop off curve, was it like 80hz? Since I play a 5 string tuned to standard D and I also drop it to C for my other stoner/doom metal band. Would that drop off affect my tone making my lower notes undistinguishably muddy (especially the low G string) ?

Muddy? I'd think not, especially with some overdrive. In fact, those notes might come across as a bit thin if anything.

[bigchiefbc]

Originally Posted by Darkonar

Bumping this thread!
I read the whole thread, and I stil want this head, though my only concern would be the bass drop off curve, was it like 80hz? Since I play a 5 string tuned to standard D and I also drop it to C for my other stoner/doom metal band. Would that drop off affect my tone making my lower notes undistinguishably muddy (especially the low G string) ?

I play a five-string with a low A through my 1960, and don't hear much low-end drop at all. I'd be more worried about your mids than than losing lows. The thing to remember with this amp is that the marshall eq actually scoops the mids if you have everything at 5 . I've been playing with treble at about 3, mid cranked all the way up to 10, and bass around 6

[Darkonar]

Thin uh? That's even worse. What mods would I need to do then? Extreme cap switching? i know lots of techs and EE's that can do the job.

[bigchiefbc]

I'd hold off on modding it until you try it. Seriously, I don't have any problems with low-end loss, and my covers band plays some pretty heavy stuff.

[Darkonar]

Originally Posted by bigchiefbc

I play a five-string with a low A through my 1960, and don't hear much low-end drop at all. I'd be more worried about your mids than than losing lows. The thing to remember with this amp is that the marshall eq actually scoops the mids if you have everything at 5 . I've been playing with treble at about 3, mid cranked all the way up to 10, and bass around 6

Oh I'm not that worried for the mids, I'd rather smash and pouda than cut and slash

[bigchiefbc]

Originally Posted by Darkonar

Oh I'm not that worried for the mids, I'd rather smash and pouda than cut and slash

I understand, especially if you're doing doomy stuff. I was just trying to put it out there that lows are not this amp's weak point, so I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. The "weak" point if there is one, is that you pretty much need to have mids at 10 to not lose mids, if that were important to you.

[Roadkill]

Finally brought mine to one of my rehearsal spaces. Got shamed into bringing a tube amp, the three guitarists have a 50 watt Marshall halfstack, a 100 watt halfstack, and a Fender Showman 100w with extension cab (I was just plugging into the PA before). I only brought one of my GK 212MBE and that is plenty loud. Great mid growl with muted highs (set 2B 10M 0T). I'll bring my Acoustic B810 next trip, I couldn't resist one on closeout for $350 - but doing older stuff with that proto-band so maybe the 2x12 has the better tone for it .

[Gonzo476]

I've read on an internet forum that the new auto-biasing version drops the wattage, so it is more difficult to get a clean tone at high volumes. Could someone tell me if this is true? I'm seriously considering buying an Infinium version, but I want to run the amp clean.

[Roadkill]

Originally Posted by Gonzo476

I've read on an internet forum that the new auto-biasing version drops the wattage, so it is more difficult to get a clean tone at high volumes. Could someone tell me if this is true? I'm seriously considering buying an Infinium version, but I want to run the amp clean.

I have the Infinium. The older model you could get "cleaner" by running the tubes hotter as it has manual bias and the Infinium is biased a bit on the cold side so that the tubes will last years maybe instead of months. I'm not quite sure why you would want to use a tube amp if you are looking for "clean"? Especially with only 100 watts you're going to be pushing the output tubes a bit to keep up with a drummer and guitarist or two .

[bigchiefbc]

Originally Posted by Roadkill

I have the Infinium. The older model you could get "cleaner" by running the tubes hotter as it has manual bias and the Infinium is biased a bit on the cold side so that the tubes will last years maybe instead of months. I'm not quite sure why you would want to use a tube amp if you are looking for "clean"? Especially with only 100 watts you're going to be pushing the output tubes a bit to keep up with a drummer and guitarist or two .

I have the older model, and I can get it pretty clean. The real breakup begins when you get to about 4 1/2 on the normal channel. With the volume on 4, I can keep up with a pretty bashing drummer and a guitarist playing a half-stack.

I can't speak for the stock tubes that come with it from Bugera, because I bought it used and it came with Mesa Boogie EL34s in it. But I'm going on almost a year of pretty steady gigging without any issues; I think that your estimate of it lasting "months" is a bit of an underestimate.

[Roadkill]

Originally Posted by bigchiefbc

I have the older model, and I can get it pretty clean. The real breakup begins when you get to about 4 1/2 on the normal channel. With the volume on 4, I can keep up with a pretty bashing drummer and a guitarist playing a half-stack.

What cab(s) are you using with it?

Originally Posted by bigchiefbc

I think that your estimate of it lasting "months" is a bit of an underestimate.

Depends on how hot you bias them, no?